tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post8889318237088282834..comments2024-03-28T05:22:10.255-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: Search for Tejas engine nears its end: decision likely before March 2010, price will determine winnerBroadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-29022411924136463792009-11-28T07:37:27.245-08:002009-11-28T07:37:27.245-08:00Since we have already paid and obtained the TOT fo...Since we have already paid and obtained the TOT for the RD93 Engines we should try to use it for LCA - Mark II.<br /><br />GRTE should be privatized and they should be allowed to continue their R&D on the improvement of Kauveri engines to make it as 100Kn engine.Karupaswamynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-20422407840849248852009-11-26T00:52:55.803-08:002009-11-26T00:52:55.803-08:00russian rd-33 12t engine with tot will surpass eve...russian rd-33 12t engine with tot will surpass every thingRu LCAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02056394490893645035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-84223002395754966662009-11-26T00:52:55.804-08:002009-11-26T00:52:55.804-08:00russian rd-33 12t engine with tot will surpass eve...russian rd-33 12t engine with tot will surpass every thingRu LCAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02056394490893645035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-22401098219213035482009-11-24T22:31:47.282-08:002009-11-24T22:31:47.282-08:00Ajai
"I've always been reluctant to make...Ajai<br /><br />"I've always been reluctant to make rash predictions of this sort. You end up looking pretty stupid sometimes..."<br /><br />I am not making a prediction, Mark my word, Time will tell an answer whether it is a stupid prediction or informed judgment. I reiterate that the Engine Deal is going to go to GE and MRCA contract to Boeing. <br /><br />The IAF is either wasting their time or may be enjoying a free joy ride. The decision has been made even before the decision making process started. <br /><br />We should feel happy that the Italian's didn't have a plane of their own to field, else our tax money would be going to the pockets of some Mafia Don's as it is happening in some of the Naval Projects.Karupaswamynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-33206736168938950922009-11-24T16:47:33.716-08:002009-11-24T16:47:33.716-08:00Can you do an article on the resent LCA Tejas Weap...Can you do an article on the resent LCA Tejas Weapon trials?<br />Thank YouAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-19268090811553838402009-11-24T12:23:04.296-08:002009-11-24T12:23:04.296-08:00Ajaiji, thanks for the article. really look forwar...Ajaiji, thanks for the article. really look forward to updates on the LCA from your side. I think that quite a lot of people are worried about the lack of news from ADA and HAL regarding progress on the LCA. LSP3 and PV5 are nowhere to be seen and there is simply no news on the radar, whether its been integrated or not, whether OBOGS is integrated or not, why is there no IFR probe installed as yet, etc. etc...could you please post an article giving updates on the LCA program and with some new pictures ? Really the best pics that we've seen of LCA apart from air shows are the ones you post.Kartiknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-36979530361780942412009-11-24T10:16:38.135-08:002009-11-24T10:16:38.135-08:00what minor airframe changes mean. they have to cha...what minor airframe changes mean. they have to change the intake which should be major change. <br />in the present mk1 they are having aux duct. <br /><br />so for sure there will be intake change..<br /><br />Do you think it is minor ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-8311560864590758122009-11-24T08:44:03.620-08:002009-11-24T08:44:03.620-08:00But sir why cant the new engines be used for secon...But sir why cant the new engines be used for second squad as they will be available much before its production starts.<br /><br />Moreover Mk2 is also about stealth and the AESA Radar which I'm sure will take much more time to develop so why have a Squad of LCA's with a lesser engine.<br /><br />Plz correct me if im worng in my thought.Wish'snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-11514259063579176382009-11-24T08:23:24.361-08:002009-11-24T08:23:24.361-08:00ajai, so nothing on the radars ?ajai, so nothing on the radars ?fighterclassnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-33269704051733230622009-11-24T05:36:25.649-08:002009-11-24T05:36:25.649-08:00Ajaiji, people always talk about the thrust. Is th...Ajaiji, people always talk about the thrust. Is there any data on engine maintenance cost naturally it would also be included to evaluate. What is the mean time between overhaul of both. Does GE offer include enhanced durablity engine. It is always good to learn from others so howmuch TOT is on offer the platform is going to be our last bet on times of conflict so that means it must not be dependent on others right.kennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-60619170461810472372009-11-24T05:07:26.899-08:002009-11-24T05:07:26.899-08:00Ajai, kudo's on yet another very well written ...Ajai, kudo's on yet another very well written article. With regards to our neighbors and the fact that they would have already started inducting modern fighters into their inventory (by the time Tejas fighters are added to the IAF fleet), could you share your view-point as a defense analyst on the following: <br />1. Tejas Mk 1 & 2 delivery schedule – (granted that even Tejas Mk1 will be a very capable fighter compared to the MIGs that it’s replacing) at what point of the induction will the Tejas start to provide ‘added benefits’ due to its technology and capabilities considering the fact that initially the IAF will be ‘adding’ to the numbers of it’s depleting fleet<br />2. Capability and logistical advantages brought upon due to technologies used by the Tejas<br />3. Psychological impact, if any, on IAF as well as our neighbors <br />As always, I look forward to your insightful viewpoint.Mike Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14733809412530989066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-52170140478268046212009-11-24T04:52:30.144-08:002009-11-24T04:52:30.144-08:00"c)By making Tejas based on EJ200, we are jus..."c)By making Tejas based on EJ200, we are just grounding even more aircrafts in the event of sanctions."<br /><br />I think you made a mistake. It should be GE engines not from EuroJetAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-31071861893288356502009-11-24T04:16:02.033-08:002009-11-24T04:16:02.033-08:00a)If the Gripen has a problem in MMRCA because of ...a)If the Gripen has a problem in MMRCA because of US engine how will Tejas MK2 have export possibility?<br /><br />b)List all countries to whom there is better chance of selling Tejas. Most would be those who don't want US components. Otherwise they could go for f16 or Gripen. Only EJ200 can give that overseas sales to Tejas.<br /><br />c)By making Tejas based on EJ200, we are just grounding even more aircrafts in the event of sanctions.<br /><br />d)Right now only expensive aircrafts are based on european engines. A low-cost segment Tejas based on EJ200 will not be seen as competitor by europeans and fully supported for exports to countries with low budget.<br /><br />e)Eurojet is going to get Thrust Vector Controls soon. This will add to manoueverability of Tejas and compensate for what the design may lack.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-64607212185336713662009-11-24T04:09:27.655-08:002009-11-24T04:09:27.655-08:00Wish:
The Mark II is the Tejas with the new engin...Wish:<br /><br />The Mark II is the Tejas with the new engine! How the hell can the second squadron of LCAs have the new engine?<br /><br />GE has already committed to giving the ToT.<br /><br />Joydeep:<br /><br />Q1. Is their a option for TOT with this deal<br /><br />Yessss. Naturally.<br /><br />Q2. If we r going for foreign supplied engines, does that mean Kaveri engine is gone for good.<br /><br />Yessss. Naturally.<br /><br />Q3. What abt the time frame for supply of these engines<br /><br />3 years after decision.<br /><br />Q4. Cant we just reverse engineer the engines as the chinese do, this will ultimately help us in case there is engine supply problem with MRCA planes (Gripen and F16)<br /><br />What a cunning plan! You can only reverse engineer an engine after you learn how to engineer and engine. Get the drift....?<br /><br />Spetsnaz 101:<br /><br />"Ajai, if you can tolerate my advice, may i suggest you start "tagging" your articles with the topics that its being written on or mentioned."<br /><br />Boss, they are tagged. Not as nicely as Shiv has done it, but I'm not the techno-wiz that Shiv is. But if you go to the bottom of any of my posts, you'll find a list of tags. Click on any of them and all the articles related to that subject will load.<br /><br />Happy viewing!<br /><br />Karupaswamy:<br /><br />"The engine deal is going to go to GE. Not only the Engine but also the MMRCA contract is going to go in favor of Boeing for the Hornets."<br /><br />I've always been reluctant to make rash predictions of this sort. You end up looking pretty stupid sometimes...<br /><br />Anonymous 07:32<br /><br />"Ajai,<br /><br />Do you thing it make any sense to induct LCA after 2020. I mean is there any scope for Mk3. <br /><br />Do you thing these non stealthy birds will be mass produced after say 15 years from now."<br /><br />Firstly, technology seems to change far less slowly than most people believe it will. Remember, 15 years ago was 1994. Most of the equipment that is in service today was either in service, or entering service then.<br /><br />That notwithstanding, development of complex platforms like the Tejas is an on-going process. Even if stealth is an absolute pre-requisite in 15 years, the stealth fighter flying in 2024 will have many systems that are already being conceived, even developed today for the Tejas Mk II.<br /><br />Thanks!Broadswordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-80059080647548512632009-11-24T03:07:37.821-08:002009-11-24T03:07:37.821-08:00Sir,last September you posted news of the Kaveri e...Sir,last September you posted news of the Kaveri engine going to Russia for testing.Any news on thatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-32930371442740938962009-11-24T01:48:48.840-08:002009-11-24T01:48:48.840-08:00The engine deal must go to EJ. They are not going ...The engine deal must go to EJ. They are not going to win the MRCA deal (Eurofighter is costly and MMS is batting for USA) and they are consulting firm for LCA. Their fortunes in India are tied to the LCA program and they will go an extra mile to help us.VKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-85800530386532203352009-11-24T00:41:55.159-08:002009-11-24T00:41:55.159-08:00Thanks for the info Ajai sir..I would just like to...Thanks for the info Ajai sir..I would just like to know if the engines would be used for the mk2 squadrons or the from the second squad of LCA's??<br /><br />Also ,if its manufactured here,wont it be a TOT?which would make it tougher as per US norms to get the GE engine..which gives us EJ as a quicker option..as time is of essence here?Wish'snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-88330815933537732602009-11-24T00:40:18.328-08:002009-11-24T00:40:18.328-08:00ajai ji,
Could you please shed some light on
when...ajai ji,<br /><br />Could you please shed some light on<br />when is PV5 trainer first flight and LSP 3 integrated with MMR. I am really looking forward to hear some thing new about that.<br /><br />ThanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-36131464891877719112009-11-24T00:40:18.329-08:002009-11-24T00:40:18.329-08:00Lets see for how long babus actually drag their he...Lets see for how long babus actually drag their heels on this one.Vijayhttp://www.introspection.weebly.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-44360545498773930802009-11-24T00:21:30.336-08:002009-11-24T00:21:30.336-08:00thats ok
but ajai sir, I have some queries
Q1. I...thats ok<br /><br />but ajai sir, I have some queries<br /><br />Q1. Is their a option for TOT with this deal<br /><br />Q2. If we r going for foreign supplied engines, does that mean Kaveri engine is gone for good.<br /><br />Q3. What abt the time frame for supply of these engines<br /><br />Q4. Cant we just reverse engineer the engines as the chinese do, this will ultimately help us in case there is engine supply problem with MRCA planes (Gripen and F16)joydeep ghoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00038225081192821456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-9831832353887555872009-11-23T22:56:04.085-08:002009-11-23T22:56:04.085-08:00Thanks for the update Ajai.
Is it possible to ge...Thanks for the update Ajai. <br /><br />Is it possible to get an update on the LCA testing so far? It appears that as per ADA release, it underwent dumb bomb release tests and hot soak in western sector. Is it possible to get more info on the program so far?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-82622972928522840842009-11-23T22:23:17.122-08:002009-11-23T22:23:17.122-08:00Ajai, if you can tolerate my advice, may i suggest...Ajai, if you can tolerate my advice, may i suggest you start "tagging" your articles with the topics that its being written on or mentioned. That way its easier to skim through a particular topic that you might have written on the past as well. At the same time, it does not clutter your blog either. <br /><br />You may check out Shiv's blog to see what 'tagging' looks and works like.Vishalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12114237294512281713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-44268802412319206792009-11-23T22:21:06.960-08:002009-11-23T22:21:06.960-08:00I am angry, and I know this is not the right place...I am angry, and I know this is not the right place to vent my anger. You might probably censor my comment. <br />The kaveri engine is dead !!, the deadbeats who designed and developed the third class engine should be fired.<br />I have always felt, why should anyone ever defend their country ?, I mean what does one get by defending the country ?, does it make sense ??...I am all for R & D, I believe one must invest into R & D and develop crucial technologies, but not in the government sector, we know what kind of idiots work there. <br />India's indigenous fighter has a foreign engine, the reservation candidates who probably work there are happy :), slave to some country. I expected a lot for LCA, any science enthusiast can tell, India is a failure, shame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-45074329405336555982009-11-23T22:14:35.792-08:002009-11-23T22:14:35.792-08:00Nice one Ajai. Especially the last part where you&...Nice one Ajai. Especially the last part where you've explained how important an engine is, in the modern age. <br /><br />That apart, I think the amount of smoke an engine belches too, contributes to the assessment of an engine. Just my two cents.Vishalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12114237294512281713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-74261156204063710782009-11-23T22:14:35.793-08:002009-11-23T22:14:35.793-08:00Col Ajai,
Thank you for the excellent piece. Any ...Col Ajai,<br /><br />Thank you for the excellent piece. Any talk about TOT for these engines??<br /><br />ThanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com