tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post720410126522504180..comments2024-03-28T05:22:10.255-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: Russian experts denied access to sunk submarine, INS SindhurakshakBroadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-55156285250756973052013-09-20T14:47:28.110-07:002013-09-20T14:47:28.110-07:00Comments on this blog are not flattering to the In...Comments on this blog are not flattering to the Indian Navy personnel especially coming from "Anonymous" who probably is twenty years old and has not seen the business end of a gun.<br /><br />Accidents rarely happen in naval operations, but they do happen. US nuclear submarine Threshar sank with 150 sailors. Nobody ever told what happened to it. During the Vietnam war, US set its own aircraft carrier on fire. It was mis-operation of a landing aircraft. Russians sank Kursk with one hundred sailors. In all there are about 30 major naval mishaps worldwide in last 30 years. The sailors did not wish any of those, but accidents do happen even under best care<br /><br />This unfortunate submarine had just returned from Russia after a refit. It has the newest weapon load. Anyone of the newer technology could have exploded during handling. Hence slow down. Let it be raised and examined as none of the sailors busy loading /unloading has survived to tell the tale. <br /><br />Russians cannot be allowed near it as they, the contractors of refit could have left some issues unfinished or supplied a faulty weapon. <br /><br />The cause of the Kursk sinking was determined to be an exploding torpedo which exploded during handling. Moreover 80% of the ordnance onboard this Indian Sub is still intact. Imagine that during handling and review, this ordinance begins to explode killing the Russian technicians also.<br /><br />Hence first carefully raise it. Take out the explosives which are intact and then begin examining it.Hari Sud (M.S., B. Sc., P Eng.)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14265763692224763117noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-38155372991786265742013-09-20T09:25:24.928-07:002013-09-20T09:25:24.928-07:00@ Manne, Anonymous 10:36
Thanks for pointing out ...@ Manne, Anonymous 10:36<br /><br />Thanks for pointing out INS Kursk. What a blooper!!Broadswordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-91554950184907571752013-09-20T06:41:54.204-07:002013-09-20T06:41:54.204-07:00broadsword,
which submarines will be bought most ...broadsword,<br /><br />which submarines will be bought most likely?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-24534099557672282252013-09-20T06:28:33.625-07:002013-09-20T06:28:33.625-07:00why the pussy footing? smell a rat? is there any c...why the pussy footing? smell a rat? is there any co-relation between this tragedy and Aug 14 which is Pak I Day?<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04321766702493991716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-64888494411641792952013-09-20T04:07:17.928-07:002013-09-20T04:07:17.928-07:00Thanks for this piece sir. Very well written - as ...Thanks for this piece sir. Very well written - as always.<br /><br />I wonder why this important news doesn't figure in debates in main stream media!<br /><br />- Tanuj, NoidaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-82528398452128297232013-09-20T01:06:01.749-07:002013-09-20T01:06:01.749-07:00IF the Indian Navy can't load a non-nuclear su...IF the Indian Navy can't load a non-nuclear submarine properly without blowing themselves up how can we entrust them a nuclear boat with nuclear ordinance ?? <br /><br />They may just drop a nuclear missile or a warhead and detonate it at port destroying an entire city in the process due to their callous disregard for safety. <br /><br />The MoD must force the Navy to disclose the cause of the Sindhurakshak explosion as soon as possible by holding the Arihant project over them. <br /><br />Its better to be safe than sorry. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-42004309539195995592013-09-20T01:02:18.196-07:002013-09-20T01:02:18.196-07:00It's incredible that the Indian Navy has not m...It's incredible that the Indian Navy has not made any headway in raising the submarine nearly a month after the tragedy! A good crew and a few floating cranes would have done the job weeks ago. <br /><br />Even a huge luxury liner like the Costa Concordia was rolled on the sea-floor and that is much much larger and fragile than this submarine. <br /><br />Either this is a display of extreme ineptitude and bureaucratic hand wringing or there is something really sensitive that was going on in the sindhurakshak when it exploded. The Indian Navy is not so thin-skinned or crazy as to severely demoralize and cripple its entire under-sea arm just because it doesn't want crew negligence or shoddy safety procedures to come to light. Rajnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-76021371294740956482013-09-20T00:42:39.457-07:002013-09-20T00:42:39.457-07:00"Israeli spike not nearly as capable"......"Israeli spike not nearly as capable"......Hmmm.....maybe you might like to look closely at why javelin dropped out of the tendering process , a little birdie says it was not a price issue<a href="http://www.umangvilla.com" rel="nofollow">:)</a>Pinkypalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04775319801392322788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-27033246806337889962013-09-19T23:59:49.714-07:002013-09-19T23:59:49.714-07:00Another example of red-tapism & bureaucracy pr...Another example of red-tapism & bureaucracy prevailing in defence forces. As the sub was made in Russia the Russians were very much accustomed to it. As there was not much third party equipment, so there was less chance of getting any secret exposed. Quick decision making is the need of the hour. Maybe some lives could have been saved by now. In this particular situation Russian help is very much needed since if really some fault presents then it can be rectified before hand for the other kilo class subs. Similar joint studies could have been done in Mig planes before preventing number of crashes.RDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-37097545916741283372013-09-19T22:06:15.809-07:002013-09-19T22:06:15.809-07:00INS Kursk or K-141 Kursk?INS Kursk or K-141 Kursk?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-89183084145853955912013-09-19T21:54:51.977-07:002013-09-19T21:54:51.977-07:00INS Kursk??? :-(
- ManneINS Kursk??? :-(<br /><br />- ManneMannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-58293184550568952192013-09-19T21:38:25.489-07:002013-09-19T21:38:25.489-07:00coin has two faces... refurbishment short comings....coin has two faces... refurbishment short comings... not to be lost... SOPs... deficiency... not to be... revealed... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-41998950353146836392013-09-19T19:31:50.471-07:002013-09-19T19:31:50.471-07:00Clearly the blast indicates, that there was a slip...Clearly the blast indicates, that there was a slip. Such things happen to the best in the world. But the best always find the actual reason and improve the systems. We did not develop the systems, so IN has to allow the prime engineers who built this sub to inspect to clearly outline the root cause and the remedy. Trying to hush up will do more harm to the systems and IN.<br />SBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01829010645925220118noreply@blogger.com