tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post6906335639534070849..comments2024-03-28T05:22:10.255-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: A detailed look at the Car Nicobar class Water Jet Fast Attack Craft (WJ-FAC), being produced at GRSE KolkataBroadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-2386800534712991892009-08-26T08:36:25.371-07:002009-08-26T08:36:25.371-07:00Indeed the entire Khidderpur to Garden Reach area ...Indeed the entire Khidderpur to Garden Reach area is a hotbed of illeagal Bangladeshi immigrants. That slum is so large and cavornous, that the police don't even dare to enter the gullies in there. The CPI goons and the Bangladeshi and local hoodlums run the show there.<br /><br />Bang in the middle of this area sits the Kolkata port and the Garden Reach shipbuilders. One has to ask oneself, if this area is really safe for a destroyer for the Indian Navy to be built? Given all the issues relating to secrecy and safety of the vessel and the tech involved?<br /><br />The Communists of Bengal are known Chinese sympathizers, and the bangladeshi immigrants and the local hoodlums are in some ways amenable to motivation by the ISI.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-70974435748144114272009-08-24T17:48:31.574-07:002009-08-24T17:48:31.574-07:00Garden reach is area is heavily infested by Bangla...Garden reach is area is heavily infested by Bangladeshi illegals which include several thousand ISI sympathizersrec1manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08283145675242793064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-69471485594619767532009-08-23T11:23:07.779-07:002009-08-23T11:23:07.779-07:00Garden Reach's level is making rusting fishing...Garden Reach's level is making rusting fishing trawlers for fishing on the Hoogley. Or one of those rusting ferries that ply from Howrah to Fairly.<br />This ship can't be for the Indian Navy. Shame on Garden Reach for such a shabby example of ship-building.<br />The problem is, that the welders and the workers are CPI goons, the management are helpless to tame the working staff or control them in any manner. It is an inefficient communist loving yard. Every major navy ship that has been built here has been delayed, its cost went up to nearly two times, and the build quality was shoddy to say the least. And this is supposed to be one of India's three big ship building yards!<br /><br />Even small nations like S korea, Singapore and now UAE (Dubai) have much larger yards than India, those are equipped with modern equipment, and in the case of Dubai, employ mostly Indian workers and welders (Some of these built the U-209 subs at mazgaon). The workers in Dubai do really fine work, guess when the same workers work in India, they indulge in politics more than work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-48640177489530540212009-08-22T00:03:42.795-07:002009-08-22T00:03:42.795-07:00not withstanding the covered floor boards, the int...not withstanding the covered floor boards, the interiors look very very shabby!! The gyro is bolted onto a wood plank??? haven't they heard of rack mounting equipment and modular construction!!!! <br /><br />This is supposed to be a new boat and it already shows signs of rusting!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-81045695636902488912009-08-21T20:21:49.807-07:002009-08-21T20:21:49.807-07:00That captain's chair is straight out of Star-t...That captain's chair is straight out of Star-trek. <br />Beam me up Scotty.AKhttp://yahoo.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-48561342217627744552009-08-21T16:08:49.935-07:002009-08-21T16:08:49.935-07:00And GRSE has just bid for the Navy's latest P ...And GRSE has just bid for the Navy's latest P 17A frigates. The ones which will cost > 1 Billion dollars each.<br /><br />Hell even if you put in $2 Billions per ship, GRSE's build quality will remain the same. They seem to have a Hi-Fi designing lab, but outside of the airconditioned lab, the reality is as ugly as the finish of this ship.<br /><br />That captain's chair was no doubt bought from the Khidderpore chor bazaar in a hurry.<br /><br />Bhagwaan hi bachayey is desh ko.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-29324181967324682472009-08-21T07:35:14.886-07:002009-08-21T07:35:14.886-07:00...and a silly looking made in china wall fan on t...<i> ...and a silly looking made in china wall fan on the side... can't they put air cons? dont india have capability for that? just call in Onida or Voltas for the job!! </i><br /><br />without AC you will cooked up in iron box. it will be there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-64767272602476969232009-08-21T04:06:47.149-07:002009-08-21T04:06:47.149-07:00...and a silly looking made in china wall fan on t......and a silly looking made in china wall fan on the side... can't they put air cons? dont india have capability for that? just call in Onida or Voltas for the job!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-74078403860245440272009-08-21T04:05:31.592-07:002009-08-21T04:05:31.592-07:00lol ajai!!wtf is that? a chair on a platform for t...lol ajai!!wtf is that? a chair on a platform for the captain... with wheels? looks so shabby... crap no wonder IN doesn't want itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-20819839667944175192009-08-21T02:33:12.796-07:002009-08-21T02:33:12.796-07:00The work is not completed and it's an incomple...The work is not completed and it's an incomplete ship. Have patience till the work is complete.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-53310488078980819332009-08-21T01:30:01.473-07:002009-08-21T01:30:01.473-07:00Can't believe in today's day and age you c...Can't believe in today's day and age you could have an interior like this !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even Bangladesh could do better. and, this Yard will make the new P17A frigates....................Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-61353733092913881402009-08-20T11:48:15.715-07:002009-08-20T11:48:15.715-07:00Regarding Floors: Pls notice that the actual floor...Regarding Floors: Pls notice that the actual floors are covered with plastic sheets on top of which lie the plywood sheets. Hence it looks shabby. The actual floors would be better. We hope ! <br /><br />Ergonomics: Pathetic ergonomics. Whoever designed the ship's ergonomics was atleast 60 years old. The Captain's chair in the Bridge is so pathetic. Imagine sitting in a plastic chair going through a hurricane. Hope the captain has strong bones!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-83310082435921670022009-08-20T10:05:15.123-07:002009-08-20T10:05:15.123-07:00god, no built quality looks horrible. and the capt...god, no built quality looks horrible. and the captains chair, that HAS to be a joke!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-20149620031296101852009-08-20T09:58:17.057-07:002009-08-20T09:58:17.057-07:00The problem seems to be with private industries ra...The problem seems to be with private industries rather than GRSE. The build time of these ships are real fast.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-13342615311183957592009-08-20T09:57:10.759-07:002009-08-20T09:57:10.759-07:00The work must not have been completed, today they ...The work must not have been completed, today they handed over a tug to Oman way ahead of the scheduled date. The govt enterprises are no more the same old story. Privatization is a big no but there can be private participation in the defense sector.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-81563504338817511382009-08-20T09:18:23.630-07:002009-08-20T09:18:23.630-07:00Hi Ajay,
I suppose INS Cheriyam is new ship pro...Hi Ajay,<br /> I suppose INS Cheriyam is new ship procured by Indian navy. But the interiors looks so shabby, very disappointing work by GRSE. These shipyards should learn from private shipyards, just because Indian Navy has no option but these corrupt babu infected shipyards doesn't mean IN deserve better ships. These shipyards should be either privatized and private Indian companies should be allowed to build warships. As of now these shipyards sound more like junkyards....just look at the crappy work on the floor in Captain's cabin.chinmayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06794485489258568321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-59139352415485399832009-08-20T07:43:17.271-07:002009-08-20T07:43:17.271-07:00I like your detailed posts and usually find myself...I like your detailed posts and usually find myself eagerly looking forward to more. But I can't help but wonder if posting all these details including pictures can be a security breach?Dushyanthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14985060800534261116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-87152068027911124572009-08-20T04:08:23.862-07:002009-08-20T04:08:23.862-07:00ajai. is the captain's chair a mock up or what...ajai. is the captain's chair a mock up or what he will ultimately sit on. Very interesting!!!Kishore Budha / किशोर बुधाhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12859438423750651427noreply@blogger.com