tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post6693167481018363759..comments2024-03-28T05:22:10.255-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: Russia objects to T-72/T-90 simulators: Friend turns 'foe' in tank battle simulator dealBroadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-74622825665311684132010-02-20T14:39:15.431-08:002010-02-20T14:39:15.431-08:00“A quality simulator cannot be created without inf...“A quality simulator cannot be created without information from the designer on issues like ballistics and fire control computation.” – Except, that the T-72 and the T-90 aren’t quality tanks, but you know what, India has dug her own hole choosing to go with Russian manufactured tanks, and with her retarded fascination with smaller everything.<br /><br />The “smallest- lightest aircraft”, the “smallest submarine”… (Speaking in Indian babulal accent) “it is too heavy no no no we are wanting the smaller lighter tank” etc…, I mean Jesus Christ!!!iambobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-35507533234080542972010-02-20T01:47:55.881-08:002010-02-20T01:47:55.881-08:00i'd like to see all the nay Sayers make their ...i'd like to see all the nay Sayers make their own tank fit for Indian army service.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11766808535274067161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-70847373060360890122010-02-19T22:07:10.788-08:002010-02-19T22:07:10.788-08:00Ajai sir
I have few points to make
1. a. The R...Ajai sir <br /><br />I have few points to make <br /><br />1. a. The Russians have finally woken up to the fact that their shisp, planes and tanks are being copied (ex china). <br /><br />b. Probably that is why they are worried that they are worried that these simulators will further allow copiers to gain access to systems in T-72/T-90.<br /><br />c. Giving them royalty can be a solution simply bcoz they are the creators of these systems.<br /><br />By the way do you have any news about BEML's work on futuristic ultra light tanks, which can be transported across zones by helicopters. Is it possible to ferry 40+ ton tanks on helicopters?joydeep ghoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00038225081192821456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-75027855757500270812010-02-19T09:56:40.944-08:002010-02-19T09:56:40.944-08:00I apologize for calling the Russians "bogus c...I apologize for calling the Russians "bogus cheats". So the conclusion now is that everyone is trying to rip us off? Yes, I accept.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-18822772468652522052010-02-19T09:06:47.749-08:002010-02-19T09:06:47.749-08:00Interesting article but I dont see why the languag...Interesting article but I dont see why the language of the title needs to be so controversial? The Russian state is hardly an enemy of India because Rosoboronexport officials raise questions around IPR, the industry has after all lost millions on this issue.<br /><br />That said I doubt CAE/Zen has violated any IPR in building the simulator, though if Komardin would consider the simulators to be of 'quality' is another matter...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-43907696255259099512010-02-19T09:06:00.417-08:002010-02-19T09:06:00.417-08:00Another reason why India should make it's own ...Another reason why India should make it's own weapons systems. In this case we have no need to induct the tin-cans of t series. Arjun will just do fine.AKhttp://ak47.yahoo.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-4509439647997292572010-02-19T06:58:59.347-08:002010-02-19T06:58:59.347-08:00Russkies reneged on gun-barrel metallurgy in the T...Russkies reneged on gun-barrel metallurgy in the T-90 tech transfer deal. So it is not as if their hands are clean either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-88123350011283652572010-02-19T06:36:02.211-08:002010-02-19T06:36:02.211-08:00Mr. anonymous @16:45
Whats wrong if India develop...Mr. anonymous @16:45<br /><br />Whats wrong if India develops simulator for T-72 on its own? BTW T-72 is a Soviet product and Russia is not all what Soviet union was.Rahul Singhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-72933637172638946162010-02-19T05:03:15.544-08:002010-02-19T05:03:15.544-08:00Seriously, come off your war mongering and sensati...Seriously, come off your war mongering and sensationalist opinions like "friends turn foe". We behaved just like the Russians when some in Ecuador pointed finger at us after the Dhruv crash, which ultimately turned out to be a pilot error.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-6993793590428350412010-02-19T03:15:12.042-08:002010-02-19T03:15:12.042-08:00The only bogus cheats are the Indians for dancing ...The only bogus cheats are the Indians for dancing with every nation on the planet when they have a defence deal with the Russians. You do not get a sturdy defence just for cash. Go ahead Mr Clean, and try reverse engineering or better still, a decade of debauchery with the USA, you know what that will get ya. <br />It has gotten a Big Yea till date for China. <br />Look around, you Chicken Tikka eating IITian numskull! It will serve you right.<br />O By the way...get those export orders on Brahmos. It is the tax payers money you must recover and just desserts for all the midnight oil you burnt under the divot in IIT. Congratulations, Mr. Simulator!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-45602290965380563002010-02-19T01:04:02.770-08:002010-02-19T01:04:02.770-08:00Russian cheated us by giving under rated T-90, And...Russian cheated us by giving under rated T-90, And now when we want to develop our capability they are crying. I think MOD should bu just deaf as always and ignore them.Shailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12918926040025880201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-9874452697289911462010-02-19T00:21:30.363-08:002010-02-19T00:21:30.363-08:00Navy have also imported Mig-29K/KUB simulators fro...Navy have also imported Mig-29K/KUB simulators from Rheinmetall Defence Electronics Germany. Why did not they objected then? Are they annoyed because we are not inviting Russia to take part in T-72 upgrade?Rahul Singhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-90336720043150285792010-02-18T23:40:28.439-08:002010-02-18T23:40:28.439-08:00applauds , why all the sudden russia hate, some pe...applauds , why all the sudden russia hate, some people seem to forget that they are the only ones willing to sell top line equipment to us without crippling usage guidelines. <br />Every single hooting commentator here would collectively explode in rage if china started to export an arjun simulator to any future customer of ours. And for copying the copycats tut tut where do you get these ideas, or do you pick them off someone else.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11766808535274067161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-78712365652523141622010-02-18T22:14:14.597-08:002010-02-18T22:14:14.597-08:00Just call it a generic "Tank simulator" ...Just call it a generic "Tank simulator" instead of T72/T90 simulator.<br /><br />And make it a "Multi-Tank Simulator" so that same software can simulate ARJUN tanks also besides T-72 and T-90. <br /><br />After that russians would not be able to object.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-18615272970082298792010-02-18T21:06:34.952-08:002010-02-18T21:06:34.952-08:00We should export the T72 & T90 Simulators to o...We should export the T72 & T90 Simulators to other countries too, To compensate the loss that our tax payers incurred due to the ballooning costs of T90 and their failure to provide TOT on time.<br /><br />There are 2 sides to a coin. If Russians fail to oblige to their contractual obligations we have no reason to religiously follow it. May be MoD babus can take lessons from Chinese on this topic.<br /><br />We should reverse engineer FGFA and Brahmos and come up with our own indigenous versions, Chinese are very successful at it, our planners could copy the same approach.Karupaswamynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-83739795135038023142010-02-18T18:39:20.576-08:002010-02-18T18:39:20.576-08:00Ajai, Tank simulators for the Army and Steel beast...Ajai, Tank simulators for the Army and Steel beasts for tank lovers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-60012791721322546942010-02-18T18:14:11.738-08:002010-02-18T18:14:11.738-08:00The Russians are sounding more and more like bogus...The Russians are sounding more and more like bogus cheats everyday! How can it be an IP violation to build a simulator for a Russian tank!?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com