tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post5970210483497010900..comments2024-03-28T05:22:10.255-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: Buying India's new light fighter. Not another MMRCA fiasco, pleaseBroadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-23215062243876264682016-10-17T07:05:47.135-07:002016-10-17T07:05:47.135-07:00Yeah i think mig 35 can do the job as it is not ve...Yeah i think mig 35 can do the job as it is not very costly and maybe it can be tailored to a lighter version if india is having big demandsAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10578716029621486877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-46890039389168213022016-10-15T12:08:20.504-07:002016-10-15T12:08:20.504-07:00Anything less than F-35 is a waste of money and ca...Anything less than F-35 is a waste of money and capability. Even thinking about 4th gen fighters at this time is a sin!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-46524060338878757152016-10-15T00:24:01.090-07:002016-10-15T00:24:01.090-07:00Great article! I agree with you completely but I&#...Great article! I agree with you completely but I'm going on a tangent here.......<br /><br />as a country we're still stuck with a mind set that we can't do it. If as a country we decide that we want to make a single engine/ twin engine fighter with all its critical technologies.... Why can't we get the best brains from IITs, scientists....metallurgists... Designers, pay them like crazy<br />Give them the best facilities...best incentives. Make indegenous defence production a national goal!<br />We can make it faster than any procurement process. And save billions in the long run!<br /><br />Rafale will take 15+3 yrs.<br /><br />I'm confident that, we can build it faster.<br />Hack information, if required. Its possible!<br />Not just fighters but howitzers, tanks, GT engines, aeroengines!<br /><br />If China had the same thought process as us.. Then they wouldn't have made the J 15, J 20 and new aircraft carriers!<br /><br />But, we're in this state becauseof only one reason... how will our politicians/ decision makers and corporations make money?<br /><br />We Indians don't have the faith in ourselves.<br />We ought to....its already too late.<br /><br />HAL se naa ho payega!! Sarkari mentality has been our biggest enemy.<br />Reliance, mahindra, tatas, L&T maybe better choices!<br /><br />But that mind set has to come....<br /><br />Fire fighting all the time and lagging behind everything has to stop.<br /><br />Just believe!<br />anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18445873950328661806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-10800863733780590812016-10-15T00:01:28.419-07:002016-10-15T00:01:28.419-07:00The US cannot be trusted. The US cannot be trusted. anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18445873950328661806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-80082182735185239892016-10-14T20:40:06.290-07:002016-10-14T20:40:06.290-07:00If it has to be a single engine aircraft, then the...If it has to be a single engine aircraft, then the choice is left between F-16 and Gripen (from the MMRCA competitors). Those saying that Gripen will give lot of independence to India from inspections do not know that Gripen's engine is F414 - GE engine and possibly a lot of technologies are American. So from a sanctions or inspections perspective, Gripen and F-16 are not so different. <br /><br />About the AESA radar, Gripen uses Selex radar which is banned in India as it is owned by Finmeccanica. <br /><br />The Swiss evaluated Gripen and said that it is okay for CAP kind of missions but neither air-dominance nor intercept. <br /><br />F-16 on the other hand is a proven aircraft, built in numbers. In the event of war, there is always an option to buy second hand from countries such as Israel and US(if our defense cooperation goes to that level). In addition, knowledge sharing by Israel and US can help build up tactics very quickly.<br /><br />In terms of munitions, F-16 can fire more munitions. If F-16 can be configured to fire Israeli and French weapons along with Astra, it will be a potent warrior in IAF colors. <br /><br />Pakistanis having F-16 is same as Chinese having Su-30. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-50938734404268231832016-10-13T13:07:55.411-07:002016-10-13T13:07:55.411-07:00NSR says ---
The only way that India to get very ...NSR says ---<br /><br />The only way that India to get very urgently and badly needed reliable engine technology is to select an American fighter - F/A-18E/F or F-16V for the urgently needed replacement of Mig series...<br /><br />If India wishes, then it should collaborate and co-design and co-produce Tejas I and II with the technologies from Gripen E...<br /><br />Or if needed, they can select Gripen E in place of Tejas II and then leapfrog to AMCA fighter by itself...<br /><br />India already messed up its fighter numbers royally so select one quickly so it will get engine technology and so fighters can be maintained at high rate of availability...<br /><br />Once India has engine technology, then it can co-design and co-develop future variants to fit its needs...<br /><br />So get on with the task when US Defense Secretary is willing to give written guarantees...<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-68658367290510454082016-10-11T12:48:23.900-07:002016-10-11T12:48:23.900-07:00Another issue is that the Russians simply do not h...Another issue is that the Russians simply do not have a single-engine light fighter. This leaves the choice down to the following F-16(F-35?), Gripen, Tejas Mark-1 and that's it. I cannot recall any other multi-role single engine fighter. The F-16 is a 40-year old design...just saying...<br /><br />One must question as though why dual engine fighter's cannot do the job a single engine fighter can? Mig-35 anyone? Su-35? Both of these will lead to the logistics problem going away....<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-63341082534984704842016-10-11T10:35:02.995-07:002016-10-11T10:35:02.995-07:00sir , dont you think depending too much on US defe...sir , dont you think depending too much on US defence industry can be harmful for india ?? all of india's decisions politically will have to be made according to the US needs. otherwise US will put india under sanctions and we'll be doomed. i dont think US is a reliable ally of india.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11519757917121776062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-18193431403366767532016-10-11T08:25:27.666-07:002016-10-11T08:25:27.666-07:00sir , dont you think depending too much on US defe...sir , dont you think depending too much on US defence industry can be harmful for india ?? all of india's decisions politically will have to be made according to the US needs. otherwise US will put india under sanctions and we'll be doomed. i dont think US is a reliable ally of india.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11519757917121776062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-2683904840794280922016-10-11T07:28:04.897-07:002016-10-11T07:28:04.897-07:00All of you including the owner of this blog is mis...All of you including the owner of this blog is missing the big picture and running wild with your stories. The new outreach on the part of the Indian missions abraod to foreign OEMS is to seek out potential suitors for collaborating on developing the Tejas Mk-2 and the AMCA as alogical next step. If these projects fail to pan out as desired, acquiring more Rafales to fill the gap will be always an option. the IAF is not looking to add another variant of single engined fighter jets to its growing inventory of disparate platforms - rest assured !Subhohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10004604247421013343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-61698811036666602082016-10-11T01:22:42.905-07:002016-10-11T01:22:42.905-07:00There he goes again---- our self acclaimed defence...There he goes again---- our self acclaimed defence analyst--- <br />Please read the interview of our current air chief(given a few days back), who has amply clarified the reason for mmrca tender failure- Primary reason has been because the selection had become process driven rather than goal driven. <br />So guess what that means--- Our previous govt who shied away from every type of accountability and decision making drove the tender round and round in circles until it became irrelevant. Yet you criticize the current govt of the the ills of the previous one. <br />Besides mmrca was not a complete failure- it did help iaf narrow down to Rafale and typhoon as the only aircrafts who would match IAF's medium reqt, and not Rafale have been ordered. <br /><br />I guess since your bosses in Lockheed martin/boeing were not pleased hence the irate diatribe from your end. <br /><br />The current requirement is for a light fighter, since using rafale for certain roles would be an overkill. <br /><br />TEJAS production is not under threat with orders already underway, Grippen is would be an ideal partner aircraft to the tejas. <br /><br />With Age of UAV's / micro UAV's on rise light fighters would be more in demand. <br /><br />Please sir, as mentioned earlier u have the power of pen, try not to unnecessarily skew your articles basis your political convictions.rajendrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01972175366264426323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-37594891421744620892016-10-11T00:20:48.090-07:002016-10-11T00:20:48.090-07:00All 4Gen fighters are very vulnerable to modern SA...All 4Gen fighters are very vulnerable to modern SAMs. Either you conduct Suppression of Enemy Air Defence from stand off ranges far away ( such as air launched Brahmins or SCALP) or you use them for air defence over your airspace. F35s were undetectable to US SAMs in exercisesParsheauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06093214974951745374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-34738287467761056832016-10-10T23:41:24.708-07:002016-10-10T23:41:24.708-07:00Needles say if it was the F-35 regardless of the e...Needles say if it was the F-35 regardless of the exorbitant cost you would harp on its benefits. The cost of Rafale with all its support and supplies in addition to its TTSL is really cheaper than a Russian aircraft. Rafale purchase is NOT over. Single engine plane offer is extende4d to Tejas Mk II otherwise the Tejas will be gone for good. Why would Gripen help build its competitor? Even if they do- what would be achieved having two similar aircrafts? Where would the Tejas fit in if a single engine plane is purchased from overseas? NO country will ever share 100% of its intellectual engineered property. How would the Swedish give this to India when even the US never gives such to Australia, Japan or any other ally?Brihanallanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-66983865210918405832016-10-10T23:25:06.948-07:002016-10-10T23:25:06.948-07:00A direct deal for gripen e will save lot of time.A direct deal for gripen e will save lot of time.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03290750760324457012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-9695413772489555502016-10-10T23:00:26.564-07:002016-10-10T23:00:26.564-07:00Not to mention the fact that there has been and wi...Not to mention the fact that there has been and will be fore the foreseeable future intense lobbying for LM on this blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-8565754090810700332016-10-10T22:59:29.670-07:002016-10-10T22:59:29.670-07:00The sanctioned strength of IAF squadrons is 42 not...The sanctioned strength of IAF squadrons is 42 not 45.Even the Air Chief has said so.However I think to tackle a" two front " threat no less than 60 fighter squadrons are required. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-50969756070251716002016-10-10T22:55:31.066-07:002016-10-10T22:55:31.066-07:00Am I also a defence analyst? ;) kidding. How is it...Am I also a defence analyst? ;) kidding. How is it possible that I also had exactly the same preferences for MMRCA: Gripen and F16. Both showed interest to set up the production line to India (primary reason). Gripen, although not a true multirole, it is the first choice for cheaper and indirect control from the US. Easy to deal with Sweden than the US directly. Second, it will easily compliment LCA. F16, on the other hand, is a true deep striker compared to Gripen but will need strong contractual terms and condition if the US wishes to see it to India. <br /><br />We can also try and work with both the players as the number of squadrons can be shared between LCA, Gripen, and F16.Gourvenduhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12702436544133302668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-27036050149804938492016-10-10T20:39:10.596-07:002016-10-10T20:39:10.596-07:00You forget the intrusive inspections the americans...You forget the intrusive inspections the americans would be conducting on F 16s to ensure their ally pakistan doesnt lose out.....besides the GRIPEN E is a futuristic fighter with lot of possibilities of upgrades and TOT which americans would surely deny usAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com