tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post5638990374875855109..comments2024-03-28T05:22:10.255-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: New strike corps for China borderBroadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-53612499106866240822013-05-03T04:39:22.384-07:002013-05-03T04:39:22.384-07:00We need airborne special ops to work behind the en...We need airborne special ops to work behind the enemy lines in TibetAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-87307827831496933342011-09-03T02:35:55.785-07:002011-09-03T02:35:55.785-07:00It is encouraging news.My suggestion to the Army b...It is encouraging news.My suggestion to the Army brass is that generally what India lacks is decisiveness at the top levels . I have seen it in my 40 years in Indian and International civil service and also at the UN in very high positions. So the strike corps should be commanded by the very best commanders pysically and mentally in top condiition.The battalions and the brigades as well as the divisions too.All the officers should be continously briefed on changing scenarios by the competent senior officers from the Diplomatic and civil service.<br />M.R.SIVARAMANsivaraman m.rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06370434024943838118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-80424624658520417582011-08-28T18:36:19.900-07:002011-08-28T18:36:19.900-07:00well as per this the new MSC is not happening soon...well as per this the new MSC is not happening soon..........<br /><br />http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-08-26/india/29931228_1_border-infrastructure-china-border-sino-indian-borderchamyalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00336765388263568189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-71618114155422565962011-08-28T09:32:31.205-07:002011-08-28T09:32:31.205-07:00Dear Ajai,
I've read in the Hindustan Times t...Dear Ajai,<br /><br />I've read in the Hindustan Times that the MoD bureaucrats have returned the file for the strike corp citing high capital expenditure. They have asked the Army to re-submit their proposal. Has the MoD started the game of playing ducks and drakes with this issue? Is another "Himalayan Blunder" is in the offing?Arunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13976038064631875068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-39630510895271488432011-08-27T01:05:13.484-07:002011-08-27T01:05:13.484-07:00To anon@11:10 25th August:
Don't give credenc...To anon@11:10 25th August:<br /><br />Don't give credence to that idiot...his entire post, which he used to tom-tom his inside knowledge was/is factually incorrect. I posted a rebuttal and called his bluff...and as expected, he deleted by post. <br /><br />Well, there is only that much one can copy and paste from brochures, I guess.VRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15325973498628657512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-10505463269881178852011-08-26T05:06:13.276-07:002011-08-26T05:06:13.276-07:00Ajai Sir,
While I like the sound what you have men...Ajai Sir,<br />While I like the sound what you have mentioned in your article, I have read some contradicting report in Media. Time of India has mentioned that money needed to raise Strike corp is around 12000 crore, and worst, MOD has raised object to this saying its too expensive, could you clarify on the latest position!Ravihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10461934576590227388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-58648948361276559292011-08-26T01:57:40.652-07:002011-08-26T01:57:40.652-07:00@ Joydeep
I agree; radars and complex terrains do...@ Joydeep<br /><br />I agree; radars and complex terrains don't always go well together. Aerostats are a partial answer. <br /><br />Yes, it boils down to the men. And the supply chain. As for our supply chain in the mountains, well surely you know where we stand.<br /><br />Aircraft with PGMs are quite potent, as seen in '99. That's why China's potential to deny the skies using their SAM batteries become a critical consideration. <br /><br />Oh, and their DF 21's can be quite a distraction too. It's not only for carrier strikes..Heberiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-3053083427566380842011-08-25T21:47:30.328-07:002011-08-25T21:47:30.328-07:00@ajai sir
Setback!Setaback! a huge setback, the A...@ajai sir<br /><br />Setback!Setaback! a huge setback, the AK Antony led MoD has returned the MSC proposal to IA owing to huge expenses it wil cost. Next we will hear setting up of committees to ponder over expenses incurred on MSC and a committee on viability of MSC and then ultimately we might hear some day that plan for a MSC has been altogether dropped.<br /><br />sigh another India example of procastination<br /><br />your views please<br /><br />thanks<br /><br />Joydeep Ghoshjoydeep ghoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00038225081192821456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-11733731691629400642011-08-25T19:57:18.961-07:002011-08-25T19:57:18.961-07:00I would rather not discuss attack plan details in ...I would rather not discuss attack plan details in public forums. Ajay should be more careful. Although PLA has taken all possible Indian response into account, we still should refrain from discussing plans in public.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-35617322240799378432011-08-25T18:00:37.590-07:002011-08-25T18:00:37.590-07:00This is merely a finger in the dyke. The Chinese s...This is merely a finger in the dyke. The Chinese still enjoy massive superiority over Indian forces.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-33490683056114351062011-08-25T10:10:55.601-07:002011-08-25T10:10:55.601-07:00A STRIKE CORPS and yet aim to capture Chumbi Valle...A STRIKE CORPS and yet aim to capture Chumbi Valley only? What a shame. On a good day, one can see Chomolhari (in Bhutan) from base of Dorjila (in Sikkim). These guys should aim higher or stop calling it STRIKE CORPS.<br />Then, why only two divisions. For that matter only one Corps. We should have offensive capability in all 3 sectors, at least to keep China guessing. Ofcourse, Pakistan too would feel apprehensive.<br />I think we should be more ambitious, at least Armoured Corps guys should.ninihalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10944733704774747465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-59579509889272246652011-08-25T09:08:57.847-07:002011-08-25T09:08:57.847-07:00http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/china/Chi...http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/china/China-admits-new-missile-equipment-but-calls-Pentagon-report-cock-and-bull-story/articleshow/9736388.cms<br /><br />check the above, china is building up and improving fast, we need complete theater dominance in NE, and a very strong navy, seems like anna's great movement is masking all defense news, i support anna, but we also need to highlight our security.Ballabhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-57271901202315983142011-08-25T08:10:09.874-07:002011-08-25T08:10:09.874-07:00How many Chinese incursions have this new set of t...How many Chinese incursions have this new set of teeth stopped?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-7390047974727201162011-08-24T22:40:47.675-07:002011-08-24T22:40:47.675-07:00Prasun K Sengupta: Dunno why that fella Ajai Shukl...Prasun K Sengupta: <i>Dunno why that fella Ajai Shukla from BROADSWORD is making such a big deal about this by claiming: "Business Standard has been aware of this development since 2009, but has refrained from reporting on it after requests from top-level MoD officials."<br />As far as I can recall, no one from the MoD ever told anyone in FORCE to refrain from making the above revelations. So why do some of these so-called 'desi' journalists thrive on such self-imposed censorship practices that are totally uncalled for? For acquiring some gratifying feeling of self-importance? Beats me. Maybe they're smoking something which I'm not.</i> [check his latest comment form @ trishul-trident.blogspot.com]<br /><br /><br />Dear Ajaiji, what's your take on this comment? Thanks sir. Nithya.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-19572946963220477432011-08-24T21:58:07.367-07:002011-08-24T21:58:07.367-07:00@heberian
thanks for the update i asked it as som...@heberian<br /><br />thanks for the update i asked it as somehow it slipped out of mind but later recollected. <br /><br />Though i agree with you that we need HARMs but in the cold high Himalayas, any war wont be won in the air by aircrafts, but will be won on by armymen who capture the heights, and from those heights a gimlet will be enough to shoot down any aircrafts. Most aircrafts still find it hard to operate in the rarified atmosphere.<br /><br />As for your view on OTH radars, I feel even WL radars wont work. At best ECM jammers can be put to use, but even how much effective they will be is doubtful. So ultimately it boils to the men who take over the heights.<br /><br />Awaiting your response<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />Joydeep Ghoshjoydeep ghoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00038225081192821456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-33554971777554449282011-08-24T20:36:14.241-07:002011-08-24T20:36:14.241-07:00And how are these 70k odd troops supposed to march...And how are these 70k odd troops supposed to march into Tibet? On Pushpak vimans and Chetak scooters? Where is the road and rail infrastructure to make the last mile access possible?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-6375303986851869012011-08-24T18:46:44.712-07:002011-08-24T18:46:44.712-07:00http://www.defencejournal.com/2001/mar/chawinda.ht...http://www.defencejournal.com/2001/mar/chawinda.htm<br /><br />could you kindly... update the link... as .htm m is missing...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-69172215650758407672011-08-24T17:40:37.452-07:002011-08-24T17:40:37.452-07:00This is a typical response from the Indian militar...This is a typical response from the Indian military. China has been building up its infrastructure, army units - incl para units, armoured vehicles, missiles in Tibet for many, many years. Yet it took us till 2009 to recognize this build up. And 1 million+ Indian army does not have 50-60000 men to spare for dedicated units to defend these areas. Any units there need to be conditioned to high altitudes, have specialized vehicles to move men and supplies, mountain artillery and air defense units, offset lack of infrastructure with landing zones and airfields for air dropping of supplies. We are now going to create from scratch strike forces when we are woefully short of suitable artillery and vehicles, have no viable air defense in significant numbers, no light tanks for use in this region. This is a disaster waiting to happen.<br /><br />Col Shukla you spent some time in Tawang recently. Whats your take on all this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-30665332305674892762011-08-24T14:25:15.499-07:002011-08-24T14:25:15.499-07:00That's refreshing news maybe it"s right t...That's refreshing news maybe it"s right to assume India is changing from the elephant to the tiger. Whatever can be deployed to deter china is much needed and it's awsome to see some plans that involve teeth that can bite back, reasures the public. Hopefully situations won't escalate and Nepal and others assist in any hostilities. Great story col 10/4 outAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-47087138632533792512011-08-24T13:42:41.959-07:002011-08-24T13:42:41.959-07:00A strike corps is always best located to the rear ...A strike corps is always best located to the rear so give it maximum scope for concentrating where operational needs require. You dont want to put it too close to the front in one sector or the other. But readers should look at the terrain on Googlemaps. The development is very welcome, but India really does have a big disadvantage because it has to climb up to the Tibet plateau.<br /><br />Ajai can correct me, but if I recall India as successor state to the British inherited British rights over Tibet and used to maintain a battalion in Tibet. Presumably this is the battalion Ajai relates the Army Chief as saying he had available. In any case Government policy was to recognize Tibet as part of China, in line with the meme "we are both victims of imperialism, so let us be friends." I do not think there was any serious thought given to defending any part of Tibet from the Chinese advance.Ravihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01028420171993289655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-6530562945640187922011-08-24T10:31:12.812-07:002011-08-24T10:31:12.812-07:00Every time I read about China, I feel compelled to...Every time I read about China, I feel compelled to ask, how much truth in the reports of Chinese grabbing our territory inch by inch in Ladakh area..Col. Shukla, please answer!Deshdaazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13072694845029489289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-42987783940105090912011-08-24T09:50:46.317-07:002011-08-24T09:50:46.317-07:00In any conflict with China on the northern or east...In any conflict with China on the northern or eastern borders, the success will depend on how the logistics are managed over unforgiving mountainous Indian terrain as well as deep within enemy territory. China being a highly networked and connected country relative to India. They can gather forces for counter offensive at short notice. How can Indian armed forces stave off and break through such an encirclement. Just my 2 cents, before being too optimistic and overtly simplistic about such discussions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-80524103418499265792011-08-24T07:35:51.309-07:002011-08-24T07:35:51.309-07:00who wants to repeat chicken neck blunder... again ...who wants to repeat chicken neck blunder... again by keeping you new strike corps at siliguri... well the chinese will be happy... more than anyone else...<br /><br />http://www.defencejournal.com/2001/mar/chawinda.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-39660380607707150062011-08-24T05:47:16.854-07:002011-08-24T05:47:16.854-07:00@ Joydeep -
Anti radiation missiles.
The Chinese...@ Joydeep -<br /><br />Anti radiation missiles.<br /><br />The Chinese have pretty dense SAM coverage, with Russian and reverse engineered, (and quite good) SAMs. They are also rumured to be looking at Over The Horizon radars on the plateau, though the efficacy of OTH radars in the border terrain is doubtful. Point is, they have excellent radard coverage and a bountiful supply of SAM batteries. So, its good to have anti-radiation missiles handy..Heberiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-51238223348727461672011-08-24T03:58:56.739-07:002011-08-24T03:58:56.739-07:00So sometimes the government does do its homework, ...So sometimes the government does do its homework, now thats news. Almost made it to Nathu la once while touring but got only as far as tsomgo lake :(. <br /><br />I agree with the person who wrote about developing infrastructure in that region. However, If left to the government it would take years if not decades, the best bet is to allow the private sector to set up 'Build operate and Transfer' type roads just like they do outside the north east. <br /><br />This can happen if the government finds some way of kickstarting the economies in that region.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com