tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post5471005249715069858..comments2024-03-29T05:44:18.835-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: Project 17-A: French shipyard, DCNS, leads in race to be design consultantBroadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-2012869409672850012009-03-30T21:21:00.000-07:002009-03-30T21:21:00.000-07:00it will be another decade forp15b,p17a rolling out...it will be another decade for<BR/>p15b,p17a rolling out of MDL <BR/><BR/>first let MDL make and comnplete <BR/>p15a,p17 and these ships will take another 3-4 years to comission<BR/><BR/>on the other hansd russia is building next batch of krivaks pritty quickly<BR/><BR/>and navy going for more krivaksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-83493433637404828772009-03-30T07:40:00.000-07:002009-03-30T07:40:00.000-07:00sorry to correct you but it seems the date is 26 f...sorry to correct you but it seems the date is 26 febAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-11249827195537830882009-03-30T07:35:00.000-07:002009-03-30T07:35:00.000-07:00^aah, I am not so computer savvy. but thank you ve...^aah, I am not so computer savvy. but thank you very much for the infoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-4396672560741620722009-03-30T00:00:00.000-07:002009-03-30T00:00:00.000-07:00The board was obviously there on exactly the day t...The board was obviously there on exactly the day the picture was taken!!! The picture information will tell you the date it was taken. If I remember, it was the 26th of March 09.<BR/>thxBroadswordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-63823203068576780402009-03-29T23:36:00.000-07:002009-03-29T23:36:00.000-07:00To start off, the IAC is NOT being constructed usi...To start off, the IAC is NOT being constructed using "Modular" construction as described in these articles. Don't swallow everything that you read in PR handouts.<BR/><BR/>Secondly, "modular" construction is not rocket science, but it is beyond our present design capabilities and software. Hence the need for a foreign design consultant.<BR/><BR/>Where are these "private guys in the Engg Design Services" who can do this so easily? Maybe they're spending too much time bragging in bars in Bangalore... I see none of them in the Directorate of Naval Design, in the public sector shipyards, and certainly not in the private yards. Get real.<BR/><BR/>Anonymous, the shipyards are keen on doing modular construction on their own... it is the Directorate of Naval Design that insists on doing it abroad. Do you read the articles I post, or do you just read the heading and then rush off to post your own two-bits-worth?<BR/><BR/>The days of guaranteed returns are over. Nowadays, a lot of the construction is done on fixed cost basis. The shipyards will be paid a fixed amount, regardless of what the construction actually turns out to cost.Broadswordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-71805832066161626822009-03-29T18:11:00.000-07:002009-03-29T18:11:00.000-07:00@AR, you are commenting about a person who you cla...@AR, you are commenting about a person who you claim has no job, what does that say about you ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-27836050972479051222009-03-29T09:14:00.000-07:002009-03-29T09:14:00.000-07:00@VinaWhoa you don't have a job or what? I see you ...@Vina<BR/><BR/>Whoa you don't have a job or what? I see you a lot in BR forums also.ARhttp://inswing.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-31591891656839530812009-03-28T19:11:00.000-07:002009-03-28T19:11:00.000-07:00how about the Shivaliks? didn't they use modular t...how about the Shivaliks? didn't they use modular technique? ajai i think ur facts r wrongAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-11845789496955306092009-03-28T17:39:00.000-07:002009-03-28T17:39:00.000-07:00ya isnt ASC built at cochin using modular designas...ya isnt ASC built at cochin using modular designas far i can see they did build blocks and are now integrating all those together and anyone know of any desighn partner for adcShadowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02474900727840819246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-54402416154004322012009-03-28T06:46:00.000-07:002009-03-28T06:46:00.000-07:00a question about the day of commissioning of INS S...a question about the day of commissioning of INS Shivalik. The board mentions 58 days to go. However I havent found what date that board is of. What date did you take the picture ajai?<BR/>In other words whats the tentative date for commissioning decided by the yard?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-57118464833048995282009-03-28T06:22:00.000-07:002009-03-28T06:22:00.000-07:00Ah Shuklaji ,this "modular" construction story tha...Ah Shuklaji ,this "modular" construction story that the MDL guys seem to have told you ain't exactly rocket science, especially in this day and age of computers with advanced CAD/CAM software and visualization tools. 20 years ago, yeah it would have been something, but now with the entire ship first built on computers and visualized section by section, it is no big deal. The fact that Indian yards don't do it is a reflection on their stagnant capabilities. There are tens of private guys in the Engg Design Services field right here in India, who do lot of similar stuff for customers around the world. <BR/><BR/>Also, about the Goliath crane, it ain't the "length" that matters (atleast here it doesn't) but rather the "width" / "span". Wider the span, less the max capacity of the crane. <BR/><BR/>Anways, keep up the good work. But somehow I should say, regarding MDL and the rest of the yards, it really is a sense of deja vu, with history repeating themselves now as a farce (multiple times). This kind of "dynamism" happens just before every new project and then atrophies, in the lack of any fundamental reform. <BR/><BR/>Write about that, and not the PR stuff handed out by the yards. Do they still get that guaranteed return 8% or 6% I dont remember exactly). What have they done for fundamental competitiveness , any change in direction, any thing at all , or is it more of the good old same ?.<BR/><BR/>-vinaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-89500630346948397692009-03-28T03:32:00.000-07:002009-03-28T03:32:00.000-07:00What is this about modular construction not being ...What is this about modular construction not being done in India? As far as I understand the ADC is being built using this technique in Cochin.Kumarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04087280355965586838noreply@blogger.com