tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post51224675926280935..comments2024-03-29T05:44:18.835-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: Mahindra anti-mine vehicles for Naxal opsBroadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-38603140203110024752011-12-26T22:33:38.030-08:002011-12-26T22:33:38.030-08:00Glad, you've posted something like this. This ...Glad, you've posted something like this. This will really be helpful. Keep it up and more power. Hoping for other lists. Thanks!mining 4wd hire vehicleshttp://www.cedrent.com.au/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-22037028598706214792011-10-17T03:07:11.897-07:002011-10-17T03:07:11.897-07:00I am not sure if these world standard products.
2...I am not sure if these world standard products. <br />21 kg IEDs or 50 Kg IEDs? which one do you opt for under your MPV ? Do they give you an option or a choice ?<br /> Consider a bettle tested product like the MPAV and give it or a similar product to your troops. they deserve that much from the nation for their lives.<br />Col H N ChoudharyCol H N Choudharynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-75298027686932612912011-08-27T14:09:52.695-07:002011-08-27T14:09:52.695-07:00Looks like the South African Marauder..Looks like the South African Marauder..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-91006531326417511402011-08-27T09:53:28.970-07:002011-08-27T09:53:28.970-07:00The MPV looks great, but it can only go so far in ...The MPV looks great, but it can only go so far in defeating an elusive enemy that has shown its versatility in guerilla tactics. What is needed are special forces like the Black Cats (British SAS, American Delta Force, Green Berets) who would be well versed in precision targeting for both reconnaisance as well as attack. Small teams of highly trained professionals are the most effective in getting results that are quick and permanent. Its time to take the gloves off (actually way past); get the real professionals involved; but keep it quiet; real quiet, lest the stupid press get wind of it and the even stupider politicians have one more excuse to drum up foolish sentiment for another self-defeating un-necessary political exercise. That is the only way to defeat these terrorists, IMHO. Jai Hind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-297617208561010452011-08-27T03:15:45.527-07:002011-08-27T03:15:45.527-07:00(i)Anon@ 16:10 is point to point correct.(/i)
Agr...(i)Anon@ 16:10 is point to point correct.(/i)<br /><br />Agreed.<br /><br />But is CRPF capable of 1/100th of it ??<br /><br />Do not joke.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-38045370475991175812011-08-27T03:09:48.163-07:002011-08-27T03:09:48.163-07:00Col Sir,
Indian Army (those who take part in batt...Col Sir,<br /><br />Indian Army (those who take part in battle) knows it for years that IED can be manufactured for any type of equipment including tanks. The Indian brave hearts lost T-72 tanks, BMPs and score of Bravo vehicle to LTTE, presumably trained by the Indian Army Stalwarts themselves.<br /><br />MPVs were employed by the South Africaans for urban but low intensity warfare basically road bound operations. These were quite sucessful during operations in neighbouring countries like SA operations in Namibia. But the SA had to leave a large numbers of those MPVs there.<br /><br />Todays Namibian Mechanised Infantry has nothing but MPVs. These machines have also been largely used for demining operations under UNO.<br /><br />Using 50 Kgs of TNT can be one operation in an year but what about hundreds of lives it would save against 10 kg IED through out the year. It comes to 24 lives lost virsus 1000 lives saved.<br /><br />Unless, the terrorists get a capability to place 50 kg IED by hundreds, there is no case for having MPVs which can sustain 50 kg explosive blast by hundreds.<br /><br />Indian police or Army is not American citizens. Notwithstanding that, if todays MPV or Rakshaks can be techinaccally brought to the standards of withstanding 50 kg TNT blast but at the same cost, that could be the game changer.<br /><br />One of the subtle aims of SF operations has to be to impose higher and yet higher costs of their operations and bring them to a stage where they become ineffective and loosers purely due to economic reasons.<br /><br />Impose higher costs that is one of their tactics. SF have to fight a guerilla like a guerrilla.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-27633720905893875922011-08-26T14:20:06.727-07:002011-08-26T14:20:06.727-07:00Anon@ 16:10 is point to point correct.
Rather th...Anon@ 16:10 is point to point correct. <br /><br />Rather the security forces shall move like a fish in water. They should seem to be approaching from the front, but in reality shall attack from the rear by no more than a group of 3 to 5 commandos equipped with high firing rated weapons and grenade launchers for no more than 5 minutes and then just run away.Mr. Ranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-1192609238867655562011-08-26T11:07:16.518-07:002011-08-26T11:07:16.518-07:00@ Abid.
OFB designed MPV Aditya was not Bakwaas ...@ Abid. <br /><br />OFB designed MPV Aditya was not Bakwaas or useless and neither did it failed rather it was defeated by explosive powerful well beyond its resistance specs (10 kg TNT under hull).Rahulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-47565701098637436812011-08-26T11:02:17.179-07:002011-08-26T11:02:17.179-07:00Hmmm. Engine from there, steel from somewhere, res...Hmmm. Engine from there, steel from somewhere, rest from elsewhere and still made in India. And naxals have been using 50 KG explosive mines since a long time. How is this vehicle going to change the fate of this war?<br /><br />What was needed was a more intensive surveillance and support mechanism using helos, UAVs along with stronger humint. <br /><br />Chindu must have made a lot of money on these imported and assembled toys.Annanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-27262969271564443292011-08-26T11:01:16.888-07:002011-08-26T11:01:16.888-07:00Explosion resistance alone is not going to help ou...Explosion resistance alone is not going to help our forces need smart MVT which can detect IEDs. Or else this MPV-1 will fail no differently than OFB Aditya as there is no guarantee that insurgents will pack 21 kg or less of explosive specially when they know about capability of MPVs.Rahulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-78155080096798066802011-08-26T03:40:24.712-07:002011-08-26T03:40:24.712-07:00As already mentioned the naxals will use a larger ...As already mentioned the naxals will use a larger ide. We need to learn from the naxal. Why would naxal pick on certain vehicle? how are naxal confident that the vehicle would pass on the path they laid a 40kg mine? looks like naxals have a really good recon habits, which seems to be missing in our forces.<br /><br />We need dedicated 24/7 surveillance, ambush parties targeting ide teams based on these surveillance. It is a game of "I see you first, i hit you first"<br /><br />Let the CRPF have units where they are broken in smaller units, given dedicated surveillance tools and given a specific grid,All these smaller units inter-connected to form a smooth flow of information.<br />and based on the size of the target, have teams deployed to get them.<br /><br />Concentrate heavily on night based ops. Teams equipped with night vision tools do daily night runs on Naxals. day time be out of sight. Constant night attacks will break the morale.<br /><br />It is time we invest in technologies and not send cannon fodders, even if we have billion people in this country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-24016127968311169732011-08-26T01:23:21.368-07:002011-08-26T01:23:21.368-07:00Col. Shukla-
Have Mahindra specified what happens...Col. Shukla-<br /><br />Have Mahindra specified what happens if the IED's pack more than the 21kg of TNT?Heberiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-66124141116092102242011-08-26T00:23:33.617-07:002011-08-26T00:23:33.617-07:0021-kilo blast resistance is really useless. In Ira...21-kilo blast resistance is really useless. In Iraq and Afghanistan the insurgents were packing about 40-50 kgs of explosives. Sometimes even MBT's were destroyed by the blast. Also, during war, most of the danger is from high powered mines and RPGs. M&M need to look at at least 50 kgs of TNT resistance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-83119090964335299242011-08-25T23:13:26.290-07:002011-08-25T23:13:26.290-07:00The design of this Mahindra MPV looks good than th...The design of this Mahindra MPV looks good than the Ordnance Factory's Bakwaas product being used now. This will certainly boost morale of security, eliminate fear so that they can plan operations effectively. <br />Why not our army use this in JK where IED are used by kashmiri terrorists.Abidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-33051355912637098752011-08-25T22:20:14.924-07:002011-08-25T22:20:14.924-07:00So this "customized and manufactured by Mahin...So this "customized and manufactured by Mahindra" MPV is in service now! I was thinking it to still be in testing and evaluation. Good to hear, though South African and 'Ural' involvement bringing citrus flavors. Despite over all is a good news. <br /><br />Wonder, what would now happen to TATA and AL's MPVs?Rahulnoreply@blogger.com