tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post4077478591885109493..comments2024-03-29T05:44:18.835-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: BAE-Mahindras apprehend retendering for 155 mm towed guns: "Rs 8000 cr artillery gun tender might fail again"Broadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-72384644568968542972010-07-25T10:58:48.000-07:002010-07-25T10:58:48.000-07:00"if your collective paranoia (about non-exist..."if your collective paranoia (about non-existent Chinese encroachments on the border) forces the Indian leadership into the same aggressive posture --- as it did in 1962 --- the story this time around will be only marginally different."<br />I was sad to note that this time too the situation will be the same...all these years and no progress on the sino border :-(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-58127792500652355902010-07-23T12:33:39.381-07:002010-07-23T12:33:39.381-07:00Looking forward to the release of your book. Do po...Looking forward to the release of your book. Do post when and where it can be purchased. <br />According to Livefist, there is a fresh tender for towed howitzers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-12221209253790400672010-07-23T08:11:11.382-07:002010-07-23T08:11:11.382-07:00Folks, forget the acrimonious exchanges. Perhaps I...Folks, forget the acrimonious exchanges. Perhaps I'm being unrealistic in expecting everyone to talk from experience instead of citing rubbish.<br /><br />I suppose something that appears in a newspaper appears to have some sanctity... but the reality is that most reporters, indeed most analysts, know jack shit about the intricacies of the Sino-Indian dispute.<br /><br />What is most worrisome is that the same paranoia that led to Indian getting its ass whupped in 1962... is very much in evidence in 2010. And, believe me folks, if your collective paranoia (about non-existent Chinese encroachments on the border) forces the Indian leadership into the same aggressive posture --- as it did in 1962 --- the story this time around will be only marginally different.<br /><br />Things on the border are calm and peaceful -- you can believe this, or reject it in favour of the links that you all love so much --- and there are no encroachments by the Chinese.<br /><br />Subject closed.Broadswordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-47541063421645675242010-07-23T03:32:13.429-07:002010-07-23T03:32:13.429-07:00calm downb guys, dont worry ajai. though he is una...calm downb guys, dont worry ajai. though he is unaware of the real situation, he seems willing to learn, go easy on him. friends,so chill. <br /><br />ajai,you should be telling him that this blog is the place to be since it has more truth in it than the mainstream media, instead you seem to be discouraging him. remember, most people out there believe whats in the papers and its not easy to separate fact from fiction. we want more people who are knowledgable and less who are ignorant<br /><br />chan read the blog, ajai's intimate nkowledge of the indo-china border gives you a real picture of what its like.<br /><br />parties tend to exaggerate the situation to put them in the spotlight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-53176002309344284832010-07-23T01:59:32.139-07:002010-07-23T01:59:32.139-07:00You assume too much. I agree that I have never bee...You assume too much. I agree that I have never been to the border. But then again, most people in India have not. They, like myself, believe (or try to find truth) in the media.<br /><br />As I said, I truely hope you are right and the articles are wrong. Perhaps they are merely propoganda to rally the people and govt to be strong. I don't know, I'm not in politics.<br /><br />I see you are still hostile. Let me assure you there is no need to be. I am a patriotic citizen that wants the best for my country. Now if, patriotism is evoked, out of ignorance in reading the said articles, then misguided as it may be, it is still better than being "educated" (I'm not saying this is you, I'm saying there are people like this).<br /><br />I will try to find the posts you say are on this blog. Perhaps, in return, you will lose the hostility against a fellow citizen who is only interested in a prosperous nation and redirect it against the traitors and enemies of this great nation.Chan Akyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-85592786083161608712010-07-23T00:37:37.329-07:002010-07-23T00:37:37.329-07:00Excellent replies Ajai. I am not sure its worth tr...Excellent replies Ajai. I am not sure its worth trying to explain anything to BR types. Its bit like talking to a Brick wall. Sites like BR give all indians a bad name. They use your articles if it validates their virtual world and god forbid when it doesn't. They have no respect for the fact that when someone has spent half their life serving the public, why would they do make belief?<br /><br />They act brave over the keyboard but none have the courage to look others in the eyes. I have seen their type, when a black or pakistani walk past, they put their heads down.MPatelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-65846588283046120692010-07-22T23:28:09.957-07:002010-07-22T23:28:09.957-07:00Chan Akya:
You can spend your life providing link...Chan Akya:<br /><br />You can spend your life providing links to article written by paranoid nitwits who have never been within 100 miles of an Indian border.<br /><br />In contrast, I go out there, spend real time there, talk to the people who matter there (including the locals) and reach real conclusions.<br /><br />I'm not interested in rebuffing the BJP claim. This is a party in free-fall that will say anything -- no matter how stupid it makes themselves, and India, look -- in order to gain a column of newspaper space. And, perhaps, they are right in doing so... because there are untravelled, uneducated morons out there who will cite those newspaper articles all across the internet.<br /><br />At this point in time, there is nobody -- I repeat NOBODY -- who knows more than me about the Sino-Indian border. Instead of citing links from compromised newspapers, quoting moronic politicians, mouthing outright lies... go back in my blog and read everything that I have written about China and the border. You will be educated.<br /><br />But, Mr Chan Akya, you're probably not interested in reading deeply about the Sino-Indian border problem. You believe reading news articles indiscriminately is an acceptable way to learn. So go ahead and wallow in your ignorance. This blog is not the place for you.<br /><br />Good bye, I hope!Broadswordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-8705602894656065372010-07-22T10:47:59.658-07:002010-07-22T10:47:59.658-07:00Mr. Shukla, here is another link for your consider...Mr. Shukla, here is another link for your consideration:<br /><br />http://australia.to/2010/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=426:india-china-relations-to-worsen-further-&catid=80:fayaz-wani&Itemid=128<br /><br />"On July 31, 2009, Chinese military had entered nearly 1.5 km deep inside into the Indian territory near Mount Gya in IaK and painted “CHINA” on boulders and rocks in red spray paint."<br /><br />"At a recent meeting attended by top officials of Indian army, Indian Home Ministry, Kashmir government, it was agreed that there was lack of proper mapping of the area. The participants admitted that the Indian area along LAC in IaK has shrunk over a period of time."<br /><br />"“Nang-Tsang area was under Indian control upto 1984. However, it was occupied in bits and pieces by Chinese military. Nagkung was also under Indian control till 1991. The area was, however, seized by Chinese military by the end of December 1991. Similarly, Chinese army has taken control of Lungma, which was under India control till 1992,” the local villagers have said."<br /><br />What say you?Chan Akyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-64265094894691558032010-07-22T07:16:25.604-07:002010-07-22T07:16:25.604-07:00hey looks like the artillery has been cancelled fo...hey looks like the artillery has been cancelled for sure<br /><br />new tender out<br /><br />http://indianarmy.nic.in/writereaddata/RFI/152/RFI%20%20TOWED%20GUN%20_ARTY-5_.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-21972375525171871972010-07-22T02:47:16.166-07:002010-07-22T02:47:16.166-07:00Here is another example of an "attack".
...Here is another example of an "attack".<br />http://news.outlookindia.com/item.aspx?686640<br /><br />Though it should be noted that the article states that BDR is trying to encroach land, not that it has. Nevertheless a strong message should be sent through official channels stating this sort of behaviour will not be accepted, but does our govt have the guts to stand up for us?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-63812085521027067522010-07-22T02:24:50.179-07:002010-07-22T02:24:50.179-07:00Mr Shukla,
It is a pity you resort to name calling...Mr Shukla,<br />It is a pity you resort to name calling. Anyhow, If you notice, I have provided a link that states the LAC has "moved" 50km into India. Now I don't know how true it is, but it has been published in many places. <br /><br />If what you say is indeed true, I am very pleased and glad to hear it. Perhaps you should publish an article that rebuffs the BJP claim. So the "person" you want to call "stupid" is the BJP, not me Mr. Shukla. Perhaps you should dig deeper and see if there is any truth to it. I will leave that to you.<br /><br />Regarding your statements about the Americans and Russians returning land.. those were "conquered" territories and not recaptured territories. India returned land it won in Kashmir (which "belongs" to India, at least that's the official claim). If you believe that this is the same as what other countries did in the past, then I take it you believe Kashmir doesn't really belong to India.<br /><br />I am not interested in playing the mud slinging game. If you want to tell me I am wrong, please do so in a courteous manner. If you furnish proof for what you say, you do not need to resort to name-calling.Chan Akyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-88894900626616489462010-07-22T01:14:35.421-07:002010-07-22T01:14:35.421-07:00Chan Akya says, "Meanwhile, China has occupie...Chan Akya says, "Meanwhile, China has occupied more and more territory in the NE (In the past 10 years, they have "moved" the border 50km within India).<br /><br />Chan Akya, are you just a moron or have you been smoking something? Even the stupidest person I know would think before making a statement like that.<br /><br />I've just come back from a year on the Sino-Indian border and you'll be happy to hear that things are just the same as they were when I was posted there as a soldier in 1986.<br /><br />Chan Akya further avers: "Did you know that india is the ONLY country in the world to give up land it has WON in a war??"<br /><br />Even the most dim-witted kid who reads only Commando Comics knows that Russian, American and British forces captured the whole of Europe by mid-1945... and then withdrew to their borders across hundreds (and in the case of the US, thousands) of kilometers.Broadswordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-44380171450043138502010-07-21T02:09:50.451-07:002010-07-21T02:09:50.451-07:00@MMertz
First of all, peace loving does not mean s...@MMertz<br />First of all, peace loving does not mean standing idle while there is injustice going on all around you. Have you not heard the saying "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" ?<br /><br />You are free to do as you wish, but I as well as millions of Indians are willing to die for her. So we will not be "leaving like rats on a sinking ship", this is possibly a description of yourself more than anything.<br /><br />@anon of 19 July 2010 19:09<br />Noone is assuming stupid people are in power. We are merely stating facts, which you might want to dismiss. If you believe we are strong simply because noone has "attacked" us openly, you are completely mistaken. It is a known fact that Pakistan's ISI is waging a war against us in Kashmir and NE of India using guerilla tactics. Meanwhile, China has occupied more and more territory in the NE (In the past 10 years, they have "moved" the border 50km within India). If you do not believe these are attacks, you should sit in your room and smoke more of that stuff that you like so much. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/6068688.cms<br /><br />It is foolish thinking like this that cost us land in Kashmir and the loss against China in 1962. Of course you are free to think what you wish and live in an dream world where none of this is happening.<br /><br />Did you know that india is the ONLY country in the world to give up land it has WON in a war?? So please don't tell me there are no "intelligent" people in our govt. Unfortunately, it is filled with spineless pathetic morons.<br /><br />The armed forces are doing a job as best they can under the circumstances. Our politicos are making it ever harder for them.Chan Ankyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-45807867691876812542010-07-19T08:47:50.617-07:002010-07-19T08:47:50.617-07:00Is MoD planning to scrap this tender and go for M7...Is MoD planning to scrap this tender and go for M777? Depending on IA's needs one of the things to consider between M777 & FH-77 B05 is range. While M777 is light-weight and very well proven, its effective range is 40 km (with Excalibur) where as FH 77 can reach up to 60 km. Also if this gets scrapped, shouldn't MoD opt for self-propelled FH77 BW L52 (Archer) for our rugged terrain? Ideally lets have all three variants! (Yea, yea day-dreaming is no crime,I know !)Deshdaazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13072694845029489289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-72739550762308552010-07-19T06:39:59.951-07:002010-07-19T06:39:59.951-07:00Why is it always assumed that all INTELLIGENT peop...Why is it always assumed that all INTELLIGENT people in this country are outside the government.<br /><br />AND WHY IS IT ASSUMED THAT in the Ministry of Defence and Armed forces, there are only IRRESPONSIBLE AND FOOLISH PEOPLE<br /><br />We have two enemies who openly DEMAND OUR LAND.<br />If we were so weak they would have taken what they wantAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-59345676069945062362010-07-19T01:33:16.000-07:002010-07-19T01:33:16.000-07:00Gents,
I am amazed how the so called peace loving...Gents,<br /><br />I am amazed how the so called peace loving people of india are constantly calling for war. <br /><br />There isn't going to be any war, if there is one, you people will be leaving india faster than rats leave a sinking ship!!! <br /><br />The next war (if its really a war) will be nuclear. Make no mistake about it. Next time you post, think what it means.MMertznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-44432977708931117452010-07-18T21:41:07.718-07:002010-07-18T21:41:07.718-07:00We have enough artillerry. DON T WORRY. What is no...We have enough artillerry. DON T WORRY. What is not announced in Indian Armed forces DOES NOT mean that it does not EXIST.<br />EXAMPLES <br />1. Indian army is 1.13 million in size .No it is much more.<br />2. IAF has only 32 squadrons .No much more.<br /> 3.Navy has 15 submarines.No <br /><br />Similarly this artillerry "hulla gulla"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-62489538475409508912010-07-18T08:44:16.122-07:002010-07-18T08:44:16.122-07:00Its same dilly dallying that the so called defence...Its same dilly dallying that the so called defence minister did as Kerala's CM -- the ostrich attitude of putting head in ground to let the difficulties pass.<br /><br />Kerala today is jihadist's heaven and not god's (recent hand cuttting incident is an pointer) and the roots were laid in antony's time by adopting ostrich attitude.<br /><br />Same will go in this events also. until and unless pak / china attacks army is not going to get guns (thats for sure)openlighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03549633027137961197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-18468901131404263852010-07-18T08:00:20.907-07:002010-07-18T08:00:20.907-07:00If US is sanctions crazy, this is beyond crazy. Wh...If US is sanctions crazy, this is beyond crazy. Why not ban OFB for demanding and accepting illegal gratification? Self hurting means like emposing a ban on foreign entities is an eazy way to escape through investigations which could bring culprits on both sides to book.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-18823069244379707362010-07-18T06:32:40.433-07:002010-07-18T06:32:40.433-07:00Being a very important job, the things must be exp...Being a very important job, the things must be expedited judiciously, rather than waiting for arrival for this new design:<br /><br />http://www.military-today.com/artillery/koalitsija_sv.htm<br /><br />This twin barrel design can be adopted in a futuristic JV if found feasible.Ranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-23007949489056619882010-07-17T08:35:31.501-07:002010-07-17T08:35:31.501-07:00Kangress is destroying our country with its idioti...Kangress is destroying our country with its idiotic policies. This is much needed, critical equipment. Delaying it over and over will only make us more and more vulnerable to porkistan and the chinks.Chan Akyanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-37845390815373138002010-07-17T05:59:58.379-07:002010-07-17T05:59:58.379-07:00here we go again the same old story. is mr antony ...here we go again the same old story. is mr antony running a circus or the defence mininstry? why does he not blacklist himself and his incompetent ministry after so many scams? he has reduced our army to among the weakest in the worldAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-24818098303139562292010-07-17T04:06:15.322-07:002010-07-17T04:06:15.322-07:00Ajai sir It looks to me anything related to Bofors...Ajai sir It looks to me anything related to Bofors is creating a scarecrow situation in Govt of India.<br /><br />By the Way I have some questions, will be glad if you answer them<br /><br />Q1. The 52 calibre guns taken for trails, fires heavier shells. So just how much heavy are these shells from the 39 calibre ones, and what will be there the range compared to the 39s on a/c of weight.<br />Q2. Some reports say 52 calibre guns are ideally suited for coastal batteries, with only a few countries including Singapore (effectively a city state surrounded by water) having opted for these. So is it really viable for India to try these 52s.<br />Q3. If order is placed by 2012, by when we can except the deliveries to start.<br />Q4. Since these 52s will fire heavier shells, wont it need reworking the metallurgy at OFB units with regard to fuse, arti shell and explosives.<br />Q5. Will it result in revival of the BHIM Project.joydeep ghoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00038225081192821456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-70116636116104315992010-07-16T23:29:35.847-07:002010-07-16T23:29:35.847-07:00nobody cares when India will go to war once again ...nobody cares when India will go to war once again we'll have to withdraw guns from strike formations.Netaji and babuji don't care about the soldier their son study in USA bloddy MOFO.The lack of gun seriously impinges national security yet noone seems to be bothered.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-92069748964015027392010-07-16T23:27:27.274-07:002010-07-16T23:27:27.274-07:00Perfect Posting , by canceling each and every thin...Perfect Posting , by canceling each and every thing doesn't make any sense , it will just weak our preparedness. it cannot be consider to be single tender . The culprits should be punished , but no use of punishing india each and every time .<br />Naturally our two good neighbors are very strong in ground forces , so india need to go in fastrack .<br /><br />Does FMS route is only belongs to america .NJShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03983153155305295119noreply@blogger.com