tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post3832262228928335045..comments2024-03-29T05:44:18.835-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: Rafale proposal “effectively dead” as Dassault bid not cheapestBroadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-21165371254686901762015-02-23T22:13:33.745-08:002015-02-23T22:13:33.745-08:00How can MoD allow India to be humiliated like this...How can MoD allow India to be humiliated like this? After so long, they finally realize that its not cheap?ROBINSONhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01429976292705573516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-56190379860215204162015-02-17T03:25:43.834-08:002015-02-17T03:25:43.834-08:00I am sure that MOD is not going to purchase any o...I am sure that MOD is not going to purchase any other foreign planes because he knows more than anybody. what is the real requirement of IAF in case of war with Pakistan. Only Stealth aircraft with superior counter measure will be able to escapee from missile attack. That is the reason USA is avoiding direct confrontation with Russia. They are afraid of Russian S 400 missiles and torpedo VA-111 Shkval. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-59229817495692268442015-02-16T19:48:24.947-08:002015-02-16T19:48:24.947-08:00Sir,
MOD took 3 years to understand that the bidd...Sir,<br /><br />MOD took 3 years to understand that the bidding was incomplete and sketchy ! Is it true? Or seriously these " babus" are incompetent ! If really they are that incompetent then still why they are in the MOD. ? <br />Secondly we all know that if we buy Rafael our air force will be bankrupt. Or there will not be any money left for " capital expenditure " . The same problem our army is facing now. Still we were negotiating with Dassault. It was a crime. <br />My suggestions are <br />1) Scrap negotiation for the Rafael deal immediately. No more baggage no more burden. <br />2) Buy few squadrons of mothballed F 16 C thru. Govt to Govt negotiation. It is just a temporary measure. We may get a very good price. And still those fighters can fly another 15 years at-least. We may upgrade them with Israeli avionics the way we have done in case of Sea Harrier. <br />3) If SAAB is wiling for technology transfer and willing to make Gripen in India then why we should not look into that option ! <br />Actually there are many possibilities. But who will bell the cat !<br />Regards,<br /> Parthasarathihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07701421388606152443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-73648409116407414702015-02-16T13:14:02.863-08:002015-02-16T13:14:02.863-08:00Col. Shukla, we greatly appreciate your lone crusa...Col. Shukla, we greatly appreciate your lone crusade against the flawed Pilatus deal. While the aircraft itself is good (Swiss goods are known for their quality), it is definitely not cheap. Certain vested interests in IAF have deliberately downplayed its cost vis-a-vis the HTT-40 and misled the nation. This should be investigated and the role of bribery in cash (or more probably in kind) should be explored.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-14136660615645687592015-02-16T09:23:39.475-08:002015-02-16T09:23:39.475-08:00This is really excellent news, because import redu...This is really excellent news, because import reduction is implies indigenous resurgence.<br /><br />However, only for the sake of diplomatic face-saving, we could truncate the order to only, say, 40 Rafales. The monies saved can be invested in speeding up the Tejas Mk.2 as well as kickstarting the AMCA program with private participation (albeit in lower rungs).Abhimannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-17040923840095135652015-02-16T08:26:05.252-08:002015-02-16T08:26:05.252-08:00wihfull thinking ;)wihfull thinking ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-43538150061913752512015-02-16T07:12:04.283-08:002015-02-16T07:12:04.283-08:00Excellent article..
With 'make in India' b...Excellent article..<br />With 'make in India' being the mantra , this calculation error will be a convenient escape hatch for the NDA.<br />The IAF will willy nilly have to make do with more SU-30's and the Tejas -so the sooner Vayu Bhavan and the DRDO/HAL stop working at cross purposes, the better it will be for the IAF.saffronbandithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10218122572454772636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-779400191060849292015-02-16T05:36:17.520-08:002015-02-16T05:36:17.520-08:00Eurofighter typhoon is a paper tiger. It is not a ...Eurofighter typhoon is a paper tiger. It is not a good fighter. Instead we could upgrade Su30mki. Also I think we are just find out a reason for avoiding Rafale now. If 30 billion dollars is the problem for national security. Why don't we just get back some black money from the swiss and buy it. We could just increase the defence budget?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03290750760324457012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-6815245513182571362015-02-16T02:55:48.067-08:002015-02-16T02:55:48.067-08:00HA HA! This is a joke. I told this 4 years ago. ...HA HA! This is a joke. I told this 4 years ago. No body believed me at that time. Any one reading the RFP will understand the joke of the specs given. It is only in India you can make a fool out of the Public. I hope journalists like you expose the truth.Jayeshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07770211997884852322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-47374277059936842382015-02-16T02:54:27.774-08:002015-02-16T02:54:27.774-08:00It was so clear since the beginning that MoD accep...It was so clear since the beginning that MoD accepted incomplete and sketchy details from Dassault. The French proposal was made of just few pages against the hundred of pages of the Eurofighter proposal. Now, after three years of obtaining clear figures from the French, India"discover" that it would be paying significantly more than had been initially calculated. I would like to see some head rolling at MoD now. Indian Air Force lost 3 years without having a new fighter and Indian industry lost an opportunity for more businessAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-27233805511055490112015-02-15T23:17:42.617-08:002015-02-15T23:17:42.617-08:00Just more lies and misinformation.Just more lies and misinformation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-81293009247246025552015-02-15T22:53:41.484-08:002015-02-15T22:53:41.484-08:00Colonel,
Going by the statement of French DGA chi...Colonel,<br /><br />Going by the statement of French DGA chief and Indian RM, it seems your analysis is correct. Rafale is facing some deal breaker issues and the contract may not go through. <br /><br />However, there are some like Prasun who think you are misinforming the public. He calls it cheap form of yellow journalism. He argues that Rafale deal will be contracted by June this year. <br /><br />Its very hard to figure out where is the actual truth. On one hand, IAF's squadron strength is going down considerably. While on other, paying 30 billion USD for 189 planes without any ToT is suicide. Tough choices. SKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-15878531530473529072015-02-15T19:50:40.739-08:002015-02-15T19:50:40.739-08:00The defence ministry need look nowhere other than ...The defence ministry need look nowhere other than within the country. A fraction of the money saved from these foreign deals should be diverted to setting up the worlds best production lines for LCA and Sukhoi manufacture. This will give production agencies the much needed experience in mass production which will come in handy for AMCA production in 5 years. There seems to be no great threat perception for the next 5 years. Augmentation of squadron strength with LAC and Sukhoi is the best bet at the moment.Side by side a big drive to produce world class avionics for future aircraft should be started NOW. All this will augur well in the next ten years and India will be a great fighter aircraft manufacturer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-46874320958514802182015-02-15T18:59:44.736-08:002015-02-15T18:59:44.736-08:00This is exactly the kind of fuck up that the air f...This is exactly the kind of fuck up that the air force did not need, although ajai, the scenario that you've outlined is also confusing. So the mmrca was a two step process. The first one was technical, and 4 out of 6 got left out. Thats fine, as they didnt meet iaf's performance standard. But rafale trumped out typhoon in the second round, primarily because of economic advantage, which i understand was on loose ground. What i couldnt gather from the article was, why isnt the typhoon not the second choice, automatically if rafale deal goes south? Why this sudden realization that su30s can do the job? We've had them for some time now, so why the fuck did we not go for them in the first place itself? Now some have claimed that su30 cannot carry out ground based terrain hugging attacks. This brings us back to square one. What the FUCK is going on? Its pretty intriguing, and some one does need to investigate. <br />On a personal note, i dont think things are as bad. Foul play, for such a big deal, which has been in the public eye, is not easy, nor viable to commit. Hope the deal goes through.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com