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Defence.: The Tata Group: leading the charge in defenceBroadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-42384341162960906522008-05-06T07:00:00.000-07:002008-05-06T07:00:00.000-07:00I was very happy to know that the private sector i...I was very happy to know that the private sector is rapidly advancing in the fore of defense production.<BR/>I am of the firm beliver that like a tiger cannot fight with borrowed teeth & claws like wise a country cannot be dependent on external power to supply it with armaments to secure its frontiers.<BR/>The armed forces also needs a lot to do in its supply chain management instead of depending on its old age systems.<BR/>Cna you also give us a feed back on what L&T, Mahindra's etc are doing<BR/>Regards<BR/><BR/>A.K.VArmaAshokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06266326954575505105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-11724881377534892562008-03-25T15:43:00.000-07:002008-03-25T15:43:00.000-07:00yes anon. I'm the same guy. I obviously dont know ...yes anon. I'm the same guy. I obviously dont know who u are since you're obviously posting as anon :-P. <BR/><BR/>P.S., lets take this discussion out of this page... let it remain on topic. If you want to contact me, there are quite a few ways to do that. Cheers.sniperz11https://www.blogger.com/profile/11613739977706693094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-9152145487481630952008-03-25T06:49:00.000-07:002008-03-25T06:49:00.000-07:00^^Hey u r the sniperz11 in wikipedia right? Guess ...^^<BR/>Hey u r the sniperz11 in wikipedia right? Guess who am I? came across this and it appeared to be the same name!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-59795586718586918402008-03-24T22:56:00.000-07:002008-03-24T22:56:00.000-07:00Ajaiji, could you provide more info about the prob...Ajaiji, could you provide more info about the problems that Arjun has been having? I heard the same thing about Arjun having problems in the AUCRT, but there were no more details... could u fill us in there please. Thanks in Advance.sniperz11https://www.blogger.com/profile/11613739977706693094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-35755392105705665592008-03-24T09:54:00.000-07:002008-03-24T09:54:00.000-07:00Thanks a bunch Mr. Shukla! Wow, I didn't know the ...Thanks a bunch Mr. Shukla! Wow, I didn't know the Insas is the main field gun of our army. And I've never even heard of that LMG stuff. <BR/><BR/>I guess my info is quite outdated! Thanks again by the way!<BR/><BR/>As for the rest, well it seems like the usual delay. Testing.. developing.. problems.. tieups.. we've heard all to much of those.<BR/><BR/>Thanks<BR/><BR/>(Rudra)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-72689119329327944622008-03-24T08:47:00.001-07:002008-03-24T08:47:00.001-07:00Rudra,Your answers are:1. Kaveri engine: still b...Rudra,<BR/><BR/>Your answers are:<BR/><BR/>1. Kaveri engine: still being developed. HAL is now going in for an international design consultancy with French engine-maker, Snecma and/or Russian engine maker NPO Saturn to expedite development.<BR/><BR/>2. ATV exists and is well advanced in development in Vishakapatnam. Read Sandeep Unnithan's detailed article in India Today a couple of months ago for everything you would want to know.<BR/><BR/>3. Arjun trials are still being conducted in Rajasthan... they began late last year. The tank encountered some glitches. Trials continue.<BR/><BR/>4. Astra is under development in DRDL, Hyderabad, since 2004. Last year they did controlled flight trials on the Astra. This year they will try guided flight and try to integrate it on the Sukhoi. The target date for induction into service is 2012.<BR/><BR/>5. The INSAS rifle has been in service with most of the Indian Army for a decade now. The INSAS LMG is almost ready for induction.Broadswordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-70238180142486608332008-03-24T08:47:00.000-07:002008-03-24T08:47:00.000-07:00Rudra,Your answers are:1. Kaveri engine: still b...Rudra,<BR/><BR/>Your answers are:<BR/><BR/>1. Kaveri engine: still being developed. HAL is now going in for an international design consultancy with French engine-maker, Snecma and/or Russian engine maker NPO Saturn to expedite development.<BR/><BR/>2. ATV exists and is well advanced in development in Vishakapatnam. Read Sandeep Unnithan's detailed article in India Today a couple of months ago for everything you would want to know.<BR/><BR/>3. Arjun trials are still being conducted in Rajasthan... they began late last year. The tank encountered some glitches. Trials continue.<BR/><BR/>4. Astra is under development in DRDL, Hyderabad, since 2004. Last year they did controlled flight trials on the Astra. This year they will try guided flight and try to integrate it on the Sukhoi. The target date for induction into service is 2012.<BR/><BR/>5. The INSAS rifle has been in service with most of the Indian Army for a decade now. The INSAS LMG is almost ready for induction.Broadswordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-65934871714708756342008-03-24T06:42:00.000-07:002008-03-24T06:42:00.000-07:00And somebody asked on the HJT36 Sitara. Is that sh...And somebody asked on the HJT36 Sitara. Is that shelved? Why are the BaE Hawks flwing in like water?<BR/><BR/>Thanks.<BR/><BR/><BR/>(Rudra)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-90680123956581741332008-03-24T06:41:00.000-07:002008-03-24T06:41:00.000-07:00Hello Mr. Shukla. Nothing much really, I just wann...Hello Mr. Shukla. Nothing much really, I just wanna know;<BR/><BR/>1. Kaveri engine: Whats its status at current? Is the project still even on?<BR/><BR/>2. ATV: OK, does this even exist or is it another mere speculation? If so, any idea of where its heading?<BR/><BR/>3. Arjun's induction: Accelerated user trials are supposed to be over. What's the army's verdict? Is it the same negative one?<BR/><BR/>4. Astra: No idea about it. Whats the status? When is it due to be ready?<BR/><BR/>5. INSAS rifle: Are these inducted? Does the army use them? I mean is it used in large quantities (as a main gun, as what it was supposed to be for).<BR/><BR/>I'd greatly appreciate your answers. You may make them consice to your convenience. Thanks again.<BR/><BR/>(Rudra)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-78054611798607161372008-03-23T07:22:00.000-07:002008-03-23T07:22:00.000-07:00The objective of the Govt is to ensure that max va...The objective of the Govt is to ensure that max value of benefit in terms of manufacturing, ability to value add and move towards exporting despite the shrinking defence market. The existing system of Govt owned enterprises has failed to achieve any of this. Today HAL despite their 4 decades of manufacturing fighter aircrafts has managed to get "doors for Airbus" and feel very happy about it and feels it has achieved a lot. TATAs (Indian pvt) today tied up with Boeing for manufacture of part of aircraft structure with Titanium . Shouldn't the govt start disinvesting some of the HAL units to Indian private industries - may be such initiatives can bring better return to even the employees of these units.The infrastructure grossly mismanaged can be put to use in a very efficient way and will result in huge returns and better managed. One should even think of giving the Indian LCA totally to Indian Pvt industry - HAL anyway slow peddling this project for obvious reasons. There is no incentive for HAL to produce a "more Indian" project. will the Govt take such bold steps? Big question? RUR itself is languishing due to pressures of Left ( is it left or more than Left). it is important decisions of this sort need to be taken and not mere tinkering with minor issuesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-52058971223213400702008-03-23T05:06:00.000-07:002008-03-23T05:06:00.000-07:00Anonymous, each of these can have an entire thesis...Anonymous, each of these can have an entire thesis written on them!<BR/><BR/>What exactly do you want to know about those five projects?Ajai Shuklahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16488839157370084666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-11839931246036005592008-03-23T01:37:00.000-07:002008-03-23T01:37:00.000-07:00Mr shukla, can u pls update us on the following 5:...Mr shukla, can u pls update us on the following 5:<BR/><BR/>1. Kaveri engine<BR/>2. ATV<BR/>3. Arjun's induction<BR/>4. Astra <BR/>5. INSAS rifle<BR/><BR/>really.. i need to know about it..thxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-67230507984987527162008-03-22T04:05:00.000-07:002008-03-22T04:05:00.000-07:00One could partly agree with Abhiman that joining h...One could partly agree with Abhiman that joining hands with drdo may help accelerating indiginisation. But not the other part ie Indian private industries can at best be "point men" . This feeling is due to past experience with OFs and DPSUs wherein indian Pvt industries are forcefully kept out and even today it continues on ground. The lobby within Govt depts is more than from the foreign oem themselves. Once you make it compulsory that they can only enter through an Indian Industry and only if the value addition from Indian industry is min 50 - 60% by value. Oh man for this you need a strong govt and a good visionary and keep praying to get both.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-61440390755039060222008-03-21T02:30:00.000-07:002008-03-21T02:30:00.000-07:00Mr. Shukla, the so-termed "global partnerships" th...Mr. Shukla, the so-termed "global partnerships" that Mr. Sukaran mentions, are likely to be euphemisms for licence production only. The Tata's shall be 'point-men' for the foreign companies in India.<BR/><BR/>In my view, goal of indiginization and privatization can be met together, if partnerships are formed with DRDO and its affiliates.<BR/><BR/>Thank you.Abhimanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13725190272782358248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-87171563968977144272008-03-20T23:15:00.000-07:002008-03-20T23:15:00.000-07:00Indian Private Sector, today, has the capability t...Indian Private Sector, today, has the capability to design / develop and manufacture state of the art defence equipment. However, private sector companies will not invest in defence sector without active support of the Government / Ministry of Defence. Will the influential import lobby, allow active private sector participation in defence production?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-54060711110351621872008-03-20T10:03:00.000-07:002008-03-20T10:03:00.000-07:00Firstly they get nominated. Then they only markup ...Firstly they get nominated. Then they only markup very exhorbidantly. It helps in 2 ways. Firstly it makes the turnover look large and also incraeses their profit with minimum work done by themselves. As anyway after the intial order the QR will be cahnged and one goes for yet another totally new product. and this cycle continues and suit them also- afterall there is no competition and govt has deep pockets. why to waste the easy oppurtunityAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-15809853798382851782008-03-20T08:44:00.000-07:002008-03-20T08:44:00.000-07:00Isn't it better the decision to "Buy" is taken onl...Isn't it better the decision to "Buy" is taken only and if only the Indian Industries raise their arms that it is not possible for them to "Make" within the time and "balanced" QRs (not the custom tuned QRs - as one does not need all the time. So first oppurtunity is given to Indian Private industries then to DPSUs and then to OFs in this order. That way the thrust and the strength of Indian industries will be fully utilised and more efficiently also. Hope the govt realises by closing the doors and henceforth stops all nominations to its own entities knowing fully well many times there is NIL value addition except putting their lables. The turnover of DPSUs and OFs on the production of so called TOTs CKDs and SKDs should be seen from the value addtion and not from the annual turnover. Then may be one endup with may 10 to 20% as the real buiness generated. It should be easy to get the data from the cash outflows I suppose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-54426122764129710062008-03-20T03:56:00.000-07:002008-03-20T03:56:00.000-07:00N do u have any news on the HJT36 Sutara?? Dont he...N do u have any news on the HJT36 Sutara?? Dont hear anything on it.. is it shelved? seems like we r buying Hawks and not these.. pls share.. thxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-64485316407580418342008-03-20T03:55:00.000-07:002008-03-20T03:55:00.000-07:00thats gr8!! we need more Private players in d indu...thats gr8!! we need more Private players in d industry. happy 2 hear tata, m&m n others foraying into this sector. in land systems i think its pretty secure. now we need forays in the aviation sectors, to make helicopters, aero engines and jets. Now there's only HAL. NAL and Taneja are making minor strides. Do u have more of such news on private sector players in the defence industry? pls post them!! thx..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com