tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post3100804756164706338..comments2024-03-28T05:22:10.255-07:00Comments on Broadsword by Ajai Shukla - Strategy. Economics. Defence.: FMBT Part I: Army dithers over futuristic tank, DRDO pursues engineBroadswordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13076780076240598482noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-72135609767660695282012-01-02T13:59:35.569-08:002012-01-02T13:59:35.569-08:00IA may want another T-xx rather than Indian tank!
...IA may want another T-xx rather than Indian tank!<br /><br />BTW sir what about IAC floatout? got any pictures? please....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-13430087480560941982012-01-02T12:56:46.187-08:002012-01-02T12:56:46.187-08:00I think the DRDO / AVRDE need to concentrate on a ...I think the DRDO / AVRDE need to concentrate on a Gas Turbine Engine, a possible distant cousin of the Kaveri adapted for the FMBT.<br /><br />Just like the Navalized Kaveri is under development, this too should be a goal for the future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-57892142905191654372012-01-02T10:27:30.623-08:002012-01-02T10:27:30.623-08:00The hybrid engine may be compact and fitted within...The hybrid engine may be compact and fitted within less volume than the combination of normal engine and APU.Mr. Ranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-71446589329863299112012-01-02T09:33:03.098-08:002012-01-02T09:33:03.098-08:00I wish they would build a super-duper STRONG lighw...I wish they would build a super-duper STRONG lighweight tank. They can then use it as a base for all present and future systems ---> like nag missile carrier, lazer system carrier, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-23562133772811491822012-01-02T09:28:43.304-08:002012-01-02T09:28:43.304-08:00"Business Standard, 2nd Jan 11"
Ajai ji..."Business Standard, 2nd Jan 11"<br /><br />Ajai ji - shouldn't it be 2nd Jan 12?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-53156763168955111272012-01-02T08:54:46.376-08:002012-01-02T08:54:46.376-08:00"40% of the time, you wastefully run a 1500 H...<i>"40% of the time, you wastefully run a 1500 HP engine, guzzling diesel and giving away the tank’s position, while you need very little power for running electricals like the radios and gun control equipment or for moving the tank slowly. So we are evolving a hybrid technology concept..."</i><br /><br />Interesting. So it seems that the smaller electric motor shall be used as an APU as well. The more I think about it, the more I like it.Mihirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02836909002135971437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-75126636303335069512012-01-02T08:45:05.159-08:002012-01-02T08:45:05.159-08:00What happened to the earlier DRDO project (launche...What happened to the earlier DRDO project (launched in 2003 according to wiki) for making a 1500 hp tank engine? See (under Engine)para in the Bharat Rakshak site and "Upgrades" in wiki link below- <br /><br />http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Equipment/Armour/42-Arjun.html <br /><br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arjun_(tank)#cite_ref-29 <br /><br />In addition to this , there was a project charter document for the 1500 hp engine floating around on the net, released by DRDO. I read it a few years back which outlined all the private companies partnering with DRDO on that effort.<br /><br />I am surprised that there is absolutely no mention of this past effort to develop the engine in the article or by DRDO biggies. <br /><br />Has the DRDO decided to quietly bury the failures of the past to start on new failures? I guess DRDO is in the business of selling dreams as much as selling defence platforms and both go hand in hand. As long as there is a bunch of idiotic taxpayers (including myself) footing the bill, WTF does DRDO care?<br /><br />Cheers to another decade of "development" of a new tank engine. And then, we will import the T-100 or T-120? Jai Hind.<br /><br />GuruAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-64496530827737757012012-01-02T08:15:17.936-08:002012-01-02T08:15:17.936-08:00best blogbest blogSeo Service in Delhihttp://www.organicwebseo.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-83584625574480245362012-01-02T08:11:27.352-08:002012-01-02T08:11:27.352-08:00There is Make versus Buy, then there is DRDO: Make...There is Make versus Buy, then there is DRDO: Make what that no one wishes to Buy! From Rifle to Tank, Helicopter to Aircraft!Indiaspinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12843765835493797365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-88387721807767887012012-01-02T06:52:05.271-08:002012-01-02T06:52:05.271-08:00Is it a case of "Arming without Aiming" ...Is it a case of "Arming without Aiming" for DRDO? Where would one require these tanks by say 2030?? By then water of all the three rivers of Pakistan would be flowing all along the border areas including in Sindh. Our deserts would have turned fertile with all water from Pakistan side seeping into Hakara depression.Would they require a 50 ton tank to climb Himalayas with an APU!! Ah ! you mean to say tanks will be the mainstay of country's military deterrent till around 2050? We are doing well !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-49120245133985891052012-01-02T01:50:14.152-08:002012-01-02T01:50:14.152-08:00when was the PSQR supposed to be final??when was the PSQR supposed to be final??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-89155188611656446902012-01-02T00:54:45.619-08:002012-01-02T00:54:45.619-08:00Why does it have to be a 50 tonne tank. The army i...Why does it have to be a 50 tonne tank. The army is thinking with the T model cap on. The tank needs good armour to protect its crew like M1Abraham, Merkava, Leopard and all MBT except of soviet origion.<br /><br />Why is the foucs not on Depleted Uranium ammunition and armour. DU ammunition was the single most important factor in US armour overwhelming kill in Iraq Wars. The DU armour on M1Abraham made the shells fired from T72 tanks bounce off harmlessly while DU amuunition rounds insured a first time kill as DU is one o the hardest material devloped and has great penetrating power on steel. There are envionmental sideeffects but not more important then winning wars. Also all major armies have now DU stockpiles, including Pak and its better to fire DU shells on enemy territory then have it land on ours.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-9649313651163715752012-01-02T00:40:03.872-08:002012-01-02T00:40:03.872-08:00I appreciate DRDO's initiative on engine devel...I appreciate DRDO's initiative on engine development. Without sharing the work (even if it means sharing a part of technology development to foreign companies), it would be very difficult to do everything by itself. This approach should have been followed from the beginning. But still, Better late than Never.<br /><br />-Sudheendra SAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-28216775523592996232012-01-01T22:59:02.458-08:002012-01-01T22:59:02.458-08:00Ajai, I have always maintained that the Indian Arm...Ajai, I have always maintained that the Indian Army is like Sigumnd Freud's proverbial woman when he is said to have remarked "After all these years of study, I have not been able to find out, what is it that a woman wants!" .<br /><br />The Army cannot EVER come up with a specs for a product. It is organizationally incapable of doing so. It is like a child lost in a candy shop, choosing this and that , and finally being lost and not being able to pick what it exactly wants. The Army is like a child lost in the international arms bazaar fascinated with all the toys and this and that, with barely an idea of what is it that it ACTUALLY needs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-23180325386686673142012-01-01T22:17:00.281-08:002012-01-01T22:17:00.281-08:00@ajai sir
first of all 'A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR...@ajai sir<br /><br />first of all 'A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR' to you<br /><br />and now the reply or should i say querries based on what saw in rediff and business standard<br /><br />Q1. The name for FMBT is 'Karan', why name the tanks on tragedy kings from 'Mahabharata' likw 'Bhisma', 'Arjun', 'Karan'<br /><br />Q2. Is it viable to have 2 engines (500 hp for idling & 1000 hp for moving)when there is space problem<br /><br />Q3. You say work is on for a 1800 hp engine keeping in mind the inherent tank weight gains, FMBT is currently pegged at 50 tons. Wont it be prudent to keep the target at 45 tons so even if weight touches 50 tons, the weight will be manageable.<br /><br />Q4. The rediff image show 2 tanks (1 with and another with barrel) why?<br /><br />Q5. Last time you said things about T90 tanks, any updates on the work starting on the T90AM the latest version?<br /><br />hope to get answers<br /><br />thanks<br /><br />Joydeep Ghoshjoydeep ghoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00038225081192821456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-12814214189808688412012-01-01T21:49:19.039-08:002012-01-01T21:49:19.039-08:00Wouldn't it be better if improvements are made...Wouldn't it be better if improvements are made to Arjun rather than going for an entirely new concept ?jjhttp://jjamwal.innoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-31226681532624754532012-01-01T21:18:31.302-08:002012-01-01T21:18:31.302-08:00What does the Amru have to say on this. DRDO BHEL,...What does the Amru have to say on this. DRDO BHEL,HAL,NAL have always said brilliant things about not so brilliant equipment...<br /> The saving grace has always been, indegenious capabilities while actually outsourcing....rustomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8726844009873922462.post-8648129111850190662012-01-01T20:38:19.806-08:002012-01-01T20:38:19.806-08:00"Hybrid" engine indeed and "low pow..."Hybrid" engine indeed and "low power" of a whopping 500 hp! Is there a typo of 50 hp instead of 500 ?. Isn't there something called APUs in tanks today that do exactly that ? Why most of the biggest trucks in the world today (google up Volvo and Mercedes and MAN websites) don't have engine sizes of 500 hp and infact, most APCs etc wont have 500 hp either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com